IS
JESUS “GOD?” [The
origin of the most famous Personality in the history of the
Universe is still an enigma to the Church that bears His Name] SIX
UNSCRIPTURAL THEORIES ON CHRIST’S ORIGIN [1]
Jesus is a myth; a religious hoax; an
historical fraud….there never was a real Jesus. [2]
Jesus was not a real person,
but He is real in that He is the spiritual principle of all that
is or can be good about humanity and its potential for righteousness.
He is a spiritual principle rather than a literal person. [3]
Jesus was a real historical figure, but just a man—there is
nothing supernatural or divine about Him…. [4]
Jesus was indeed the Son of God conceived by the Holy Spirit of
His Father God in the womb of a human mother, but had no pre-existence
of any kind before becoming human. Jesus was never God and never will be
God. [5]
Jesus did exist before His human birth and co-existed with God
from eternity. He had no
“beginning,” but was the Beginner and Creator of all else.
All was created by God the Father, but it was accomplished through
Jesus. Jesus was the instrumentality behind His Father’s creation.
Jesus therefore is the Eternal Second Person of the Godhead trinity. [6]
Jesus existed as God before His human incarnation.
And not only was and is He Deity;
not only was and is He God;
but in reality, JESUS ALSO WAS AND IS THE FATHER.
Jesus is not a separate Individual from His God Father, but
actually IS THE GOD FATHER changed into a human.
Jesus as God (#5 & #6) are the reason why Christian
theologians say that Jesus did not die on the cross, but only His body
died, seeing that Jesus was and is God Himself, and therefore could not
have ever DIED. QUESTION:
Are there any Scriptures to suggest any of these explanations of
Who or What Jesus is and was? Yes. Several
Scriptures can be used to suggest that Jesus was the Creator of all, and
that He is indeed called God, but can either #5 or #6 then possibly be
true? NO.
Why not? Because in
spite of the fact that there are some elements of truth to #5 and #6,
there are also Scriptures that DIS-prove other aspects of both theories. JESUS
CHRIST SUPERSTAR: I
Don't Know How To Love Him I
don't know how to love him. Anthony Buzzard:
Jesus is a man, HE’S JUST A MAN!! The
Saviour of the World is not “God,” No, the Saviour of the world is
JUST A MAN! A great man;
the Son of man; the
Son of God, but nonetheless, JUST A MAN!
Born of the human woman just like every other man. So
maybe we “don’t know how to love Him?”
After all, He’s just a man.
Is He just one more? Should
we bring Him down. Let our
feelings out? Or should we
Worship Him? Does the Bible
really condone the worship of a “man?” If
one thinks that it is a sin to think of Jesus as “divine,” consider
this: Heb 10:28
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three
witnesses: Heb 10:29
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought
worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the
blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing,
[“…as a common thing” Williams;
“as ordinary blood” Lamas; “as though it were common and
unhallowed” Taylor] and hath
done despite unto the Spirit of grace? unholy
thing: from
the Greek word “koinos,
Strong’s #2839, common,
that is (literally) shared by all or several.” Greek-English
Keyword Concordance: “common,
belonging to all equally, by implication, NOT SACRED, contaminating
(“to make common”). Vine’s
Concise Dictionary of the Biblea; “common, ordinary,
belonging to the generality, as distinct from what is peculiar…unholy,
unfit, unclean. This is precisely what
Jesus Christ Superstar has done with Jesus!
Acquaintance:
“His [Jesus’] blood was no better than MINE!” And one of
his disciples told Bob Carisle: “Jesus was no better than I am—why His very fingernails
were SIN.” Now Buzzard does
state: “He is of course
not ‘just a man,’ but the unique virginally begotten, sinless Son of
God, the only member of the human race to achieved his destiny as an
immortal man now sitting next to God in heaven” He also says:
“There is no preexisting Son of God as distinct from Jesus who
did not preexist.” (p. 142). And this:
“Jesus, not God, IS the ‘alpha and omega’ who died
(Rev. :17). God cannot
die (I Tim. 6:16). But
Jesus “EMPTIED Himself” of His prior glories, so that HE COULD DIE.
(Phil. 2:6-7 & Heb. 2:9) What sense is there is
saying that “God can’t die,” but then state that a mere moral
human CAN BE SINLESS? So Mr. Buzzard freely
admits that it is JESUS, and not God, Who is called “the alpha and omega.” What
then are the ramifications of that admission? Rev
1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the
Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Strong’s
#3841, “pantokrator—the
all ruling, that is, GOD (as absolute and universal sovereign.
ALMIGHTY, OMNIPOTENT. Gen 17:1
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared
to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk
before me, and be thou perfect. 48
times Shaddy
is used of GOD, and not a man. Say, did you notice
that “the ALMIGHTY GOD” “appeared
to Abraham,” “and said unto him [Abraham]…”? Gen
3:8
“And they heard the voice of the LORD God….” Deu 5:24
And ye said, Behold, the LORD our God hath shown us his glory and
his greatness, and we have heard his voice out of the midst of the
fire: we have seen this day that God doth talk with man, and he
lives. Now then, consider
this: “No
man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the
bosom of the Father, he hath declared him” (John
1:18) “And the Father himself,
which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his
voice at any time, nor seen his shape”
(John
5:37). “No
man has seen God at any time” (I
John 4:12). Joh 6:46
Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of
God, he hath seen the Father. And
just when did Jesus “see the
Father?” Many times “men”
heard the voice of God ALMIGHTY, but never Jesus’ Father! Who is the:
“was, and is, and is to
come?” Rev 4:8
And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him;
and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and
night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and
is, and is to come. Is this also JESUSD?
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the
beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and
which is to come, the Almighty. The “is,
was, and is to come” is JESUS (Rev. 1:8), and Jesus is “the
ALMIGHTY” (Rev. 1:8), which is also “The
LORD GOD Almighty” (Rev. 4:8).
The only One whose voice was ever heard (John 5:37). And so the Word of God
goes on and on and ON AND ON…………… Notice also in John
1:18 that Jesus said He has “declared”
His Father. What
do you mean? I thought the
Old Testament “declared” the Father hundreds and hundreds of times?
The apostles knew nothing of God the Father of Jesus. Where the apostles
aware of this fact of the Father in the Old Testament? “…believe
in GOD (John 14:1) …In
My Father’s….(Ver. 2)…no
man comes unto the Father, but by ME (Ver. 6)…Philip
said unto Him, Lord SHOW US THE FATHER (Ver. 8)…he
that has seen ME has seen THE FATHER (Ver. 9). If Jesus was just
another man of the human race with absolutely not divine about Him, why
couldn’t any man be the Messiah or the Saviour of the world? Okay, why not any JEWISH boy then? And why would he have to be conceived by the Holy Spirit of
God? Did that make Jesus
“special?” But I
thought He is not special in and by Himself? Why couldn’t God
have used YOU to be the Messiah/Saviour of the world? And why not a WOMAN? Not
“special” enough for you? If
there was ANYTHING divinely “special” about Jesus and His birth into
the human family, then He was anything but “JUST a man.” I’ve been accused of
blasphemy for stating that I believe Jesus is entitled to the title
“God.” I believe that
Jesus IS the Creator Whom God the Father used to create the heavens and
the earth. I believe that Jesus (as Jehovah) EMPTIED HIMSELF of His
power, honor, and glory to be MADE a little while LOWER than the angels
so that He could indeed DIE for the sins of His Own creatures, His Own
creation. Well I believe it is blasphemy to “bring Him DOWN” as the
rock opera suggests to the level of “JUST A MAN,” when in reality,
He was the DIVINE CREATED SON OF GOD HIS FATHER. Jesus EMPTIED Himself
of His prior divinity and took upon Him the form of a man and the form
of sinful flesh. Phi 2:6-7-- Who,
being inherently in the form of God, deems it not pillaging to be equal
with God, nevertheless empties Himself, taking the form of a slave,
coming to be in the likeness of humanity, (ASV)
but emptied himself,
taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men. (Rotherham)
But,
himself, emptied, taking, a servant’s form, coming to be, in men’s
likeness; (YLT)
but
did empty himself, the form of a servant having taken, in the likeness
of men having been made,
Emphatic Diaglott:
“But divested [to strip, as of clothing; to deprive, as of rights;
to free of; to rid of;
to devest—deprive of a TITLE, or right]
Himself, taking a Bondman’s Form, having been MADE in the
likeness of Men.” If Jesus were “just
a man” why did He need to be conceived by the Holy Spirit of God at
all? Why couldn’t He be
JUST a normal Jewish boy born to a normal Jewish mother AND FATHER?
Why? Why did He need
to be more than “JUST a man?” Why
did He need to be a SPECIAL DIVINE MAN? Buzzard wipes away the
Scriptural truths concerning what Jesus is, and what God is…..with
FOOTNOTES: [1] That Jesus was
God’s “creative original” is wiped out…. . with a FOOTNOTE (p
191, Dictionary of Apostolic
Church). [2] That Jesus
“emptied Himself” from a previous life is wiped out with a FOOTNOTE
(p. 187). If
Jesus was just another little Jewish boy, and there was nothing
“divine” about Him, why was He not just born naturally like every
other little Jewish boy? Or
why not supernaturally by using the Virgin Mary?
Why did He need to be “conceived” [impregnated]—given the
first ingredient of LIFE, by the Holy Spirit of God?
WHY? After all,
“He’s just a man.’ Would
just an ordinary, natural born Jewish Boy somehow not be qualified to be
the flawless, perfect, sinless, Saviour of the World?
Why not? Does
Jesus have to be 100% human OR 100% God—one of the other? Or
was he 100% human AND 100% God—both at the same time? No,
Jesus was not 100% human, nor 100% God.
Jesus was totally unique. He was a divine being in the Family of
God Who emptied Himself
(Phil. 2:7) of His powerful Godly honors and dignities and title.
Yet He retained some glory and honor (Heb. 2:9), when He was MADE (for a little while) lower than the angels for the suffering of
death, but He was not 100% God in that He had to ask His Father once
more to glorify Thou Me with
Thine Own Self with the glory which I had with Thee BEFORE the world
was (John 17:5). Also, “all
power is given unto Me in heaven and in earth” (Mt 28:18). made
Himself…. Emptied
Himself…. took
upon Him.… was
made…. If
Jesus never existed before He was fully born into humanity through Mary,
how pray tell, could He have “…made Himself….emptied Himself….took upon Him….and was made….”
(Phil. 2:7)? If
Jesus had no prior existence, how could He have been “…made
a little while lower than the angels….” (Heb. 2:9)? If
Jesus had no prior existence, how could He possibly ask His Father to
give back to Him “…the glory which I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE the world was….” (John
17:5)? If
Jesus had no prior existence, how could He possibly say, “…I
came down from heaven….”
if He never was ever in heaven before His human birth? (John
6:38)? If
Jesus had no prior existence, how could He state: “What
and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend UP where He was BEFORE” (John
6:62)? If Jesus was never in
heaven before His human birth how could He dogmatically state: “I
am the living bread which came DOWN FROM HEAVEN….” (John
6:51)? (At the time Jesus
made this statement, when would He have “came down from heaven?” If
Jesus did not have prior existence, how could He state in John 3:13:
(Rotherham) “And, no one, hath ascended into heaven, save he that, out of heaven,
descended,—The Son of Man.”
(Emphatic Diaglott)—And no one has ascended into heaven, except
the Son of man Who descended FROM HEAVEN.”
COMMENT:
The spiritual “sperm” did not descend from
heaven, but rather, “The
SON OF MAN descended from heaven.”
Do you believe these Scriptures or do you despise these
Scriptures? Joh
3:31-32,
He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth
is earthly, and speaks of the earth: He that cometh from heaven
is above all. And what He
hath seen and heard, that he testifies; and no man receives his
testimony. Note: seen
and heard from where and from Whom?
From God His Father in Heaven. “GOD
IS SPIRIT” (John
4:24). “I AND MY FATHER ARE
ONE”—One WHAT? One GOD or One SPIRIT? Excuse me!!
“GOD IS SPIRIT”
(John 4:24)!! How many “Gods”
are there? ONE How many Gods does
Jesus AND His Father make? ONE When God is “ALL in
All” how many Gods will there be?
ONE Jesus came from HEAVEN
(John 6:35, 51, 57, 62, and He is “coming AGAIN from heaven”
John 14:3. How does John 14:3
conclusively prove that Jesus WAS IN HEAVEN some time before He was
crucified, resurrected, and went to heaven?
If I say I am going to Moscow and will then RETURN in two weeks,
does that prove that I was in Moscow at least one other time?
NO. Neither did
Jesus on this occasion say that He would “go and prepare a place for
the disciples and RETURN,” did He?
No He didn’t. Here
is what He said: Joh
14:3 And2532
if1437 I go4198 and2532 prepare2090
a place5117 for you,5213 I will come2064
again,3825 [Greek:
‘palin, through the idea of oscillatory repetition;
(adverbially) anew, that is, (of place) back, (of time) once
more, again] and2532
receive3880 you5209 unto4314 myself;1683
that2443 where3699 I1473 am,1510
there ye5210 may be5600 also.2532
It
is possible to go to heaven and to “return from heaven” for the
first time. But it is NOT possible to COME
AGAIN from heaven for the first time, if one had never been there before!! See Matt. 11:27; Luke 10:35;
(KJV) I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world:
again [palin—return back once more], I leave the world, and go to the
Father. Joh
4:3 & 54 This is again [palin] the second miracle
that Jesus did, when he was come out of Judaea into Galilee. The Greek
word “palin” always, always means a second or more times; to do
something once more or again—no exceptions. 147 times out of 147
times, palin is translated “AGAIN”—what was or happened before is again or happening again. “…I AM”
in John 8:58 & John 18:5-6
VS “..I AM”
in Joh 8:58
Jesus2424 said2036
unto them,846 Verily,281 verily,281 I
say3004 unto you,5213 Before4250
Abraham11 was,1096 I1473 am.1510
Joh 18:6
As soon then as5613,
3767 he had said2036 unto them,846 I1473
am1510 he, [‘he’ is not in the Greek] they
went565 backward,1519, 3694 and2532
fell4098 to the ground.5476 Why in the world would
they “fall to the ground” if
all Jesus said was, “yes, I’m Jesus?” Exo
3:14 And God430
said559 unto413 Moses,4872 I AM1961
THAT834 [Who, What, (that
Which, When] I AM:1961 and he said,559
Thus3541 shalt thou say559 unto the children1121
of Israel,3478 I AM1961 hath sent7971
me unto413 you. “I
AM” in Ex. 3:14 is from the Heb. # 1961, hayah
and means: “to exist, that is, be or become, come to
pass (always emphatic” the very same as the Greek G1510 eimi, i-me'
I exist (used
only when emphatic): -
am, have been, X it is I, was. “And
God SAID unto Moses….” I
though Jesus told us that “NO MAN has ever seen God or heard His voice” (John 1:18 &
5:37)? Who
ya gonna believe—the heresy of men or the Word of God? Go
to Buzzard’s Book: Jesus was not a
Trinitarian……….
DO YOU DESPISE THE WORD OF
GOD? Lev
26:15
And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my
judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but
that ye break my covenant: Lev 26:16
I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you
terror, consumption, and the burning ague [alternating chills, fever and
sweating], that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and
ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. Job
5:17
Behold, happy is the man whom God corrects: therefore despise
not thou the chastening of the Almighty:
Pro 3:11 My son, despise not the
chastening of the LORD; neither be weary of his correction:
Pro 23:9 Speak not in the ears of a
fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.
Heb
12:5
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaks unto you as
unto children, my son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord,
nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: Isa
30:12
Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because YOU
DESPISE THIS WORD, and
trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon…..”
Their destruction will come like a falling tower……… Surely no believer
would ever admit to despising God’s Word.
What about you? Do you find
satisfaction in believing in contradictions of Scriptures? “The Bible says
thus and such…. Yes, but
over here is a verse that says such and thus, and therefore contradicts
yours verse, so that I am right and you are wrong!” Once read a
Scripture to a friend of mine who then replied:
“Well, that’s YOUR interpretation.”
Let’s look at some of the most despised Scriptures in God’s
Word: Ecc. 9:5—“The
living know that they shall die, but the dead know not ANYTHING!” Do orthodox Christians believe this Scripture?
Surely not. Why? Because they think other Scriptures contradict this
Scripture. They
particularly like the parable of Lazarus & Rich Man. Where else is a
Scripture which if taken literally shows a sinner in hell, immediately
after death, in torment, whereas a poor beggar is supposedly in heaven?
To make this story
a literal historical account, they insist that it is not a parable.
On what grounds & proof?
No grounds or proof? Why
do they want this story to not be a parable?
Because they have no real love for most of humanity and want them
to go to hell and suffer for all eternity.
I can tell you with complete assurance that many feel this way,
because many have consigned ME to this hell that they absolutely delight
in. Is Lazarus a parable or a real historical event? COMMENT:
Never forget, if a premise is true, then all truthful and
scientific research will back up the fact that your premise is indeed
TRUE. But if your premise
is false, then all truthful and scientific research will back up the
fact that your premise is indeed FALSE! Add one more
Scriptural fact to my Lazarus and Rich man paper: Is Lazarus a parable?
You don’t have to just make an arbitrary choice between
different arguments on doctrine, and then somehow just hope you made the
right choice. I am now going to
show you just one more absolute Scriptural proof that Lazarus and the
Rich Man is a classic parable and is called a parable in this section of
Scripture. John
15:3-4—“And He spoke THIS parable unto them, saying. PARABLE
of the Lost Sheep:
“WHAT
MAN of you….?” Is this a parable? Yes, it
just said Jesus “spoke THIS
PARABLE unto them.” Well
then, what about the next heading which in my King James says:
Parable of the lost coin? It doesn’t say in
the text that it is a parable, so how do we know that it is? By the wording that introduces it…. PARABLE
of the Lost Coin:
Verse
8—“EITHER [Greek:
ay ‘A
primary particle of distinction BETWEEN
TWO CONNECTED TERMS disjunctive, or; comparative….’]
“WHAT WOMAN….?”
See: Matt.
6:24/Matt. 12:33--masters PARABLE
of the Lost Son:
Verse 11—“AND
He said, [Greek: deh A primary particle (adversative or
continuative); but, and, etc.: - also, and, but, moreover,
now] A
CERTAIN MAN….” PARABLE
of the Unjust Servant:
John 16:1—“AND
[Greek: deh -- see
above] He said ALSO [“and”
in addition to; “also”
included in the above parable examples] [Greek: kahee, a primary
particle, having a copulative {to connect coordinate words or
clauses} and sometimes also
a cumulative force; and, also, even, so,
then, too, both,
but, even, for, if, indeed, likewise, or,
so, that, then,
therefore, when, yea, yet] unto His
disciples, THERE WAS A CERTAIN
RICH MAN…” PARABLE
of the Rich Man and Lazarus
Verse 19—“THERE
WAS A CERTAIN RICH MAN….”
Verse 20—“And there was A CERTAIN
BEGGAR….” So orthodox
Christians, Pastors & Priests, Theologians, and College Professors, cannot
and will not concede that: “AND
He said ALSO….there was A CERTAIN RICH MAN… And:
“There was A CERTAIN RICH MAN….”
have anything in common! The first
CERTAIN
RICH MAN IS a parable, but the Second
CERTAIN RICH MAN IS NOT a
parable! Can you not see
the difference? NO, NO I CAN’T
because there IS NO DIFFERENCE—they are both parables. THEY DESPISE THE WORD OF GOD!!
Note:
THIS PARABLE….WHAT MAN OF YOU…EITHER WHAT WOMAN…AND He said,
A CERTAIN MAN…AND He said ALSO, THERE WAS A CERTAIN RICH MAN…THERE
WAS A CERTAIN RICH MAN…and there was a certain beggar.” Is it Scripturally
even possible that Luke 16:19 is not a parable? Matt. 13:34;
John 10:6; Mark
4:33-34—Not unless Jesus lied! So now where do
they go to find a Scripture that shows good people go to heaven at death
and bad people go to hell at death to suffer for all eternity and are
not even given a trial? Where? Nowhere!
So Lazarus must NOT be a parable to support their damnable
heresy. And what about all those hundreds of Scriptures that show God
will save humanity and not eternally condemn it?
They throw them out, because they despise the word of God! WHAT
DOES “THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH” MEANS: From the Internet
site: The Phrase
Finder—“The wages of sin is death” --“Meaning,
sinners will be cast into everlasting torment.” Oh
really? Rom 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is
eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
But if you are a trained theologian, you read this verse as
follows: “For the wages of
sin is ETERNAL LIFE; but the gift of God is ETERNAL LIFE….” It’s just that they say one eternal life is in hell
and the other in heaven. **Prepare for a major Scriptural revelation: Death and Life are not synonyms. Death is the absence of Life. And nowhere in Scripture is “death” called a “separation” from God.
HOW
WE MUST WORSHIP GOD I asked in our
Conference Announcement whether anyone would believe me if I told them
that my wife’s little Shih Tzu worshipped me this morning? Hebrew:
shâchâh A
primitive root; to depress,
that is, prostrate
(especially reflexively in homage to royalty or God): - bow (self) down,
crouch, fall down (flat), humbly beseech, do (make) obeisance, do
reverence, make to stoop, worship. Greek:
proskuneō From
G4314 and probably a derivative of G2965 (meaning to kiss, like a dog licking
his master’s hand); to fawn
or crouch to, that
is, (literally or figuratively) prostrate
oneself in homage (do reverence
to, adore): - worship. In
churches across this land and around the world, countless millions of
Christians will be singing, waving their hands and arms, speaking in
mumbo jumbo, and often falling over backwards in fits of uncontrollable
jerking and general madness. They
call these gathers: WORSHIP
SERVICES Tis
true, such carrying ons does constitute a form of worship, but is this
what God wants from us? In
the Valley of Hinnom, they sacrificed babies to worship their god
Moloch. When
one bows down to a monarch, he is acknowledging that this royalty is his
Lord and Master, and is willing to obey in any and all things commanded
of him. When
one bows down and kisses the ring and hand of the pope for instance,
that is WORSHIP. The first
time “worship” is used in Scripture, it is with Abraham, and he is
willing as part of that worship to sacrifice his own son! (Gen.22:2
& 5). Generally,
people worship in a way that makes THEM (not God) feel good.
Worship service is a feel good service.
This is one reason why some of the really big Mega Churches now
hold worship services which mimic rock concerts. They
literally entertain themselves with their own worship. Worship
today consists of many centuries of church tradition: ANGELS
ARE WOMEN No
they aren’t. On an
average of once a week I receive an “angel email.”
Cut little (sometimes seductively clad teenage bleach blonds)
with some cleavage showing. Does this obsession with “women angels” have anything to
do with reality or the Scriptures?
Judges 13:6--A man of God came unto me, and his countenance was like the countenance of an angel of God, very terrible: but
I asked him not whence he was,
neither told he me his name: Gen.
16:7-8—“HE” said unto her….Gen. 31:11-12—“ and HE
said….” Luke
1:19—“Gabriel” is a man’s name. THERE
WERE THREE “WISE MEN” The
Bible says no such thing. Matt.
2:1, 7, 16…..[some traditions say 30] The wise men came to the manger and
presented their gifts. No,
they came to Jesus’ HOUSE and saw the “young CHILD”—Two years
old JESUS
HAD LONG FEMININE HAIR..
Some errors are more trivial. No
Jesus didn’t have long feminine hair (I Cor. 11:14). Jesus was
strikingly beautiful. No He
wasn’t (Isa. 53:2—no
comeliness/beauty) Some errors are very important: THE
FIRST RECORDED SIN of
mankind was when Eve at the forbidden fruit.
No, she sinned BEFORE she ate the fruit, by LUSTING for it. (I
John 2:15-16) One of the very most important: GOD
GAVE HUMANITY FREE WILL.
No He didn’t . Jer
10:23
O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walks to direct his steps. Jer
13:23
Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then
may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil. Phi
2:13
For it is God which works in you both to will and to do of his
good pleasure. Rom
9:16
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that
runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
There
are many more, but here’s one you probably never would have found: SAYING
“GRACE” Where
did “saying grace” at meals come from?
The Bible? Where? Some
say that I Tim. 4:3 is the origin of saying grace over food.
Others say: Deu 12:7 And there ye shall eat before the LORD your God, and ye shall rejoice in
all that ye put your hand unto, ye and your households, wherein the LORD
thy God hath blessed thee. FIRST
BIBLICAL DINNER in Genesis 18:1-8….No thanks or blessing!
ENTERTAINING
ANGELS: Gen. 19:1-3….No
thanks or blessing! THE
FIRST PASSOVER (Ex. 12:8-11)….No thanks or blessing given!
DISCIPLES
EATING GRAIN IN THE FIELDS (Matt.12:1)?
No blessing/ no thanks. FEEDING
THE MULTITUDE: Mat
14:16 But Jesus said unto
them, They need not depart; give ye them to eat. Mat 14:17
And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two
fishes. Mat 14:18
He said, Bring them hither to me. Mat
14:19 And he commanded the
multitude to sit down on the grass, and took the
five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed,
and brake, and gave the loaves to his disciples, and the
disciples to the multitude. Mat
14:20 And they did all eat,
and were filled: and they took up of the fragments that remained twelve
baskets full. Jesus
acknowledged God Who MULTIPLIED the loaves and fishes, but He was not
giving a customary grace blessing before a meal.
This was an unusual miracle. The
Pharisees had a problem with Christ’s disciples not washing before
meals, but said nothing regarding not saying grace over the food
(Matt.15:2). DID
JESUS INITIATE SAYING GRACE AT THE LAST SUPPER:
Matt.
26:26 And as they were eating,
Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it
to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. Mat
26:27
And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them,
saying, Drink ye all of it. Well,
there it is, right? Let’s read it carefully and pay attention to all the words: “And
as they were EATING….” There
was no apparent blessing of the food BEFORE the meal began.
And notice Luke 22:20—the wine was blessed AFTER supper. DID JESUS BLESS THE
FOOD AFTER HIS RESURRECTION: ?
Luk
24:40 And when he had thus
spoken, he showed them his hands and his feet. Luk
24:41 And while they yet
believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any
meat? Luk
24:42 And they gave him a
piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. Luk
24:43 And He took it,
and did eat before them. What
happened to the blessing and grace?
Now
don’t run out of here shouting “Ray says it’s wrong to give thanks
at meals.” I
didn’t say that. I am
merely showing you how that the most commonly accepted practices
of worship in the Church are not even Scriptural. Later
in this Conference we will take a very close look at another doctrinal
error which
effects our ability to know how to properly worship God.
Are we or are we not to WORSHIP JESUS?
After all, He was just a “man” wasn’t He?
Or was He the
ETERNAL God of the Old Testament? HE
WAS NEITHER “just a man” or the
“eternal God.” HERE
IS WHAT WE MUST BY ALL MEANS AVOID: Mark
7:7, "And in vain do they worship Me, teaching as
doctrines the commandments of men." John 17:17, "Sanctify
them by Your truth. Your word is truth." Exodus 20:4-5,
"You shall not make for yourself a carved image, any likeness of
anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or
that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor
serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God."
1 John 5:21 we read, "My little children, guard yourselves from
idols." They
literally “worshiped idols in those days.
Act 7:41
And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice
unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands. But
in “these days” we are a little more clever and sophisticated: Colossians
2:8, "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and
empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the
basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." “cheat
you” “philosophy
& empty deceit” “tradition
of men” “principles
of the world” And this:
2 Timothy 4:2-4, "Preach
the word. Be ready in season and out of season. Convince,
rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time
will come when they will not
endure sound doctrine, but according
to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will
heap to them teachers; and they
will turn their ears from hearing the truth." WE
MUST HAVE THE TRUE KNOWLEDGE: Hosea
4:6, "My people are
destroyed for lack of knowledge." Matthew 15:8,
"These people draw near to Me with their mouth, and honor Me with
their lips, but their heart is far from Me." WE
MUST HAVE THE RIGHT ATTITUDE: James
4:6, 10 tells us, "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble. Humble
yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you
up". WE ARE ADMONISHED TO ASSEMBLE
TOGETHER: Matthew 18:20, "For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am
there in the midst of them." Hebrews 10:25-27 says, "Not
forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another….” 1
John 1:7, "But if we walk in
the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another,
and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin." Hopefully, this IS what we are all
doing here this weekend! We
are assembling; we
are here to learn God’s knowledge:
we are humbling ourselves together;
we are determined to walk in the light;
learn God’s Truth;
fellowship with one another;
and be cleansed from all sin! What
about all the days in the year that we cannot assemble and fellowship
together and learn God’s Word like we do at these Conferences?
Just follow instructions: Joh
4:21
Jesus said unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye
shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the
Father. Joh
4:22
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for
salvation is of the Jews. Joh
4:23
But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall
worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeks such to
worship him. Joh
4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship
him in spirit and in truth. There’s the answer
as to how, when, and where we are to WORSHIP GOD. Mat 6:4
That your alms may be in secret: and thy Father which sees in
secret himself shall reward thee openly. Mat
6:6
But thou, when thou pray, enter into thy closet, and when thou
hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy
Father which sees in secret shall reward thee openly. Mat
6:18
That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which
is in secret: and thy Father, which sees in secret, shall reward thee
openly. SOME HAVE COME TO CONFERENCE AT GREAT
SACRIFICE Luke 14:16-20, 24 which applies quite
well to our attending worship services of God.
"A certain man gave a great supper and invited many, and sent his
servant at supper time to say to those who were invited, come for all
things are now ready. But they all with one accord began to make
excuses. The first said to him, I have bought a piece of ground,
and I must go and see it. I ask you to
have me excused. And another said, I have bought five yoke
of oxen, and I am going to test them. I ask you to have me
excused. Still another said, I have married a wife, and therefore
I cannot come." But notice
the conclusion in verse 24, "For
I say unto you that none of those men who were invited shall taste My
supper." REAL TRUE AND SPIRITUAL WORSHIP IS OBEDIENCE! Matthew 4:10, "You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve." Luke 6:46, "But why do you call me Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I
say?" Romans 12:1 says, "I beseech you therefore, brethern, by the mercies of God, that you
present your bodies a living
sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God which is your reasonable
service." THAT’S WORSHIP! Matthew 22:37, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and all
your soul, and all your
mind." THAT’S WORSHIP! John 14:21, "He who has my commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves
Me." THAT’S
WORSHIP! In Matthew 28:18, before Christ
ascended into heaven, He was giving His apostles some last minute
instructions concerning those they would baptize. Jesus said, "Teaching them to observe
all things that I have commanded you." THAT’S
WORSHIP! WE
MUST FORGIVE EVERYONE OR OUR WORSHIP IS IN VAIN: Jesus says in Mark 11:25-26,
"And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against
anyone, forgive him, that your Father in heaven may forgive you your
trespasses. But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father in
heaven forgive your trespasses."
Mat
6:12-15 And
forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: [Note the colon {:}-- “For thine is the kingdom, and the
power, and the glory, for ever. Amen”
is not in original Greek]. For
if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also
forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will
your Father forgive your trespasses. James
4:8 tells us to, "Draw near to God and He will draw near to you." Colossians
3:2 "Set your mind on
things above, and not on things on the earth." 1
Corinthians 6:20 says, "For you were bought with a price; therefore glorify
God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s." 1
Peter 1:15-16 we read, "But as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in your
conduct, because it is written, Be
holy for I am holy." 1Sa
15:22
And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt
offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD?
Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to
hearken than the fat of rams. Exo
19:5
Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep
my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all
people: for all the earth is mine: Jer
7:23
But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice,
and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all
the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you. Jer
12:17 But if they will not obey,
I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith the LORD. Dan
7:27
And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom
under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of
the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all
dominions shall serve and obey him. Act
5:29
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We
ought to obey God rather than men. Act
5:32
And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also
the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. Rom
6:16
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey,
his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death,
or of obedience unto righteousness? Mat
6:24
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one,
and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the
other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Tit
3:1
Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey
magistrates, to be ready to every good work, 2Th
3:14
And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note
that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. [I
am ‘noting
just such a man’ by sharing
this heretic’s hate mail] Col
3:22
Servants, obey in all things your masters according
to the flesh; not with eye service, as men pleasers; but in singleness
of heart, fearing God: Col
3:20
Children, obey your parents in all things: for this
is well pleasing unto the Lord. Heb
5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation
unto all them that obey him; 1Pe 4:17
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house
of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be
of them that obey not the gospel of God? THE
CONCLUSION OF THE WHOLE MATTER: Deuteronomy
10:12-13--"What does the Lord your God require of you, but to fear
the Lord your God,
to walk in all His ways and
to love him,
to serve the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul,
and to keep the commands of the Lord and His statues." (KJV)
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and
keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of
man. (CLV)
The terminus of the whole matter has been heard:
Fear the One, Elohim, and keep His instructions, For this is
the whole duty of humanity." “Fear
God; keep His commandments and instructions;
for this is the whole duty of humanity” But
listen, God’s Elect: To do these things we must read God’s Word.
How much do you read and study the Scriptures?
We must pay attention to ALL THE WORDS!
And then do ALL THAT IT SAYS!
Don’t “despise God’s Word.” Let’s
not be guilty of “READING WITHOUT HEEDING”!!
3
PRINCIPLES FOR UNDERSTANDING GOD’S WORD
Next
to Lazarus, their favorite proof text for this unscriptural nonsense is
Mat 25:41 “Then
shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed,
into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels” And Mat
25:46
“And these [the ‘cursed’]
shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life
eternal. Everlasting
fire: aionios—eonian,
age-lasting [the adjective of the noun aion] *James
Patrick Holding (aka Robert Turkel) agues on his Tetonic site that I am
wrong on this and gives two examples to prove it:
The noun super vs. it’s adjective superior, and the noun time
vs. its adjective, timeless, price and priceless, etc.,
………..Nonsense! Everlasting
punishment:
aionios—“chastening
eonian” (CLNT); “age-abiding
correction” (Rotherham); “aionian
cutting-off” (‘the lopping off branches of trees, to prune’—Diaglott).
Pruning trees does not punish them, but aids growth. Life
eternal: “age-abiding
life” (Roth); eonian life
(Diaglott); “life eonian” (Conc) Rom
2:7
To them who(3303) by2596 patient
continuance5281 in well18 doing2041
seek for2212 glory1391 and2532 honor5092
and2532 immortality, [Gk: aphtharsia—incorruptibility,
unending existence, immortality]861 eternal [age-abiding, eonian]166 life:2222 Do
we believe this verse says: “…unending
life, unending life?” or:
“immortal life, immortal life?”
or: “eternal life,
eternal life.” No, they
are DIFFERENT, and they do not mean the same thing. Okay, let’s apply
the 3 PRINCIPES: What
this Scripture really SAYS: (CLV)
And these shall be coming away into chastening eonian, yet the just into
life eonian." (Rotherham)
And, these, shall go away, into, age-abiding, correction, but, the
righteous, into, age-abiding, life. The
Craig Nolan debacle: A few years back, Craig Nolan challenged me regarding the
Scriptural fact and truth that Believers in Christ really do DIE at the
end of their mortal life. FIVE
WEEKS I debated this guy. And
there were those on our Forum who sided with Craig and said that they
really believed that I had met my match in this debate and that Craig
had the evidence on his side, and that I was wrong, but just wouldn’t
admit it. Ever try to
corner a snake in a briar patch? After five weeks of my cornering him at every turn, he
finally admitted that HE WAS WRONG, and that Yes, of course, we really
do die, else there would be no need of the Scriptural resurrection and a
dozen other major Scriptural truths. Now
I never claimed to be perfect or to have perfect interpretation or
perfect understanding, but when I present Scriptural evidence for
something, it behooves you to either accept it, prove me wrong, or just
keep quiet until God opens you mind and understanding in a matter. A
few years back I was challenged big time over whether God pours out His
Wrath upon Believers all the days of their life.
Dozens parted company with Bible Truths over this matter, yet I
conclusively proved from Scripture upon Scripture upon Scripture that
God is not ANGRY with His called and chosen Elect.
Neither was God angry and dissatisfied with His Son, Jesus
Christ. I wrote a very long
letter and the proof is in their. It
is so easy to follow in the Scriptures, that a child can understand it.
But few indeed have come to see this truth and return to our
fellowship. Hello
Ray, What do you think your cancer is; not
the wrath of God? Jesus never sinned, yet endured the wrath of God. Are
you above 'your' master? I beg you to turn, and accept that the wrath of
God abides on all unGodlyness including your own. COMMENT:
“wrath” -- Heb:
ire; anger, angry,
wrath. Gk: orgē
violent passion (ire
[intense openly displayed anger] or abhorrence [being
so repugnant as to stir up positive antagonism;
to shudder horror to regard with extreme repugnance {great
dislike; arousing disgust or aversion; repulsive, repugnant behavior, to
fight against}; loathe {to greatly abhor}); anger, indignation [anger caused by something UNJUST, MEAN,
or UNWORTHY], vengeance, wrath. And this he tells
us is how God felt toward His Son Jesus Christ!!
UNBELIEVABLE! Talk about
despising the Word of God! They
more than despise, they BLASPHEME! You'll never
attempt the book of Rev. or any other spiritual teaching, because you
have no clue as to whats being talked about. Your flock may not know
this, but I do Okay, let’s look
this unscriptural nonsense: “A
'DAY' is the coming of the evening and the coming of the morning, not
just is the light=day, but its both the 'coming of the evening and
morning', that makes a 'day'. Lets hope God gives you the ability to see
it.” COMMENT:
Never forget, if a premise is true, then all truthful and
scientific research will back up the fact that your premise is indeed
TRUE. But if your premise
is false, then all truthful and scientific research will back up the
fact that your premise is indeed FALSE! We’re not arguing
whether the coming of evening and coming of morning was called “day
one” in Genesis One. And just like the parable problem, where do the
young earth creationists go to prove that the Biblical definition of a
“day” is a 24-hour period of NIGHT AND DAY, if the Scriptures do not
allow them to change “day
one” into 24 hrs, or to change “evening
and morning” into night & day?”
Genesis one says neither! Interestingly, there
is absolutely no Scriptural reason whatsoever why “day one,”
“second day,” “third day,” etc., could not be called “time
one” “second time,” etc.
(See: Deu 10:10
“And I595 stayed5975 in the mount,2022
according to the first7223 time [day--yome].,3117
forty705 days [yome] 3117 and forty705
nights;3915 and the LORD3068 hearkened8085
unto413 me at that1931 time6471 also,1571
and the LORD3068 would14 not3808
destroy7843 thee.” Scripturally,
here “forty days and forty nights” is reckoned as “the first
time” [Heb: ‘yome/day’]. Also:
Deu 20:19
When3588 thou shalt besiege6696, 413 a city5892
a long7227 time [day—yome], ….”3117
And:
Jos
11:18
Joshua3091 made6213 war4421 a
long7227 time [yome—day]3117 with854
all3605 those428 kings.4428 Jdg 15:1
But it came to pass1961 within a while4480, 3117
after, in the time [yome—day]3117 of wheat2406
harvest,7105 1Sa 7:2
And it came to pass,1961 while4480, 3117
the ark727 abode3427 in Kirjath-jearim,7157
that the time [yome—day] 3117 was long;7235 for
it was1961 twenty6242 years:8141 Comment:
A TWENTY-YEAR day? 1Sa 27:7
And the time [yome—day]3117 that834 David1732
dwelt3427 in the country7704 of the Philistines6430
was1961 a full4557 year3117 and four702
months.2320 Comment:
A one year and four month DAY! 1Ki 11:42
And the time [yome—day]3117 that834
Solomon8010 reigned4427 in Jerusalem3389
over5921 all3605 Israel3478 was
forty705 years.8141 Comment;
A FORTY-YEAR day! 2Ki 10:36
And the time [yome—day]3117 that834 Jehu3058
reigned4427 over5921 Israel3478 in
Samaria8111 was twenty6242 and eight8083
years.8141 This
“day” lasted TWENTY EIGHT YEARS!! How
many more dozens of examples do you want? CONCLUSION:
a “YOME” A “DAY” is
often used in Scripture to represent a period of time, often consisting
of a very LONG “day” or many YEARS!! Their contention is this: [1]
That this is the DEFINITION of the word “day,”[IT IS NOT] and
[2] that it was a 24-hour day [IT IS NOT].
Both premises are false and unscriptural. Joe
2:11
And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is
very great: for he is strong that executes his word: for the
day [24 hours?] of the LORD
is great and very terrible; and who can abide it? “The
DAY of the Lord” is called a day, but is what constitutes this
day--Joe 2:2
“A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of
thick darkness…” The
definition of “a day?” No,
of course not. Things
that are “called” by a name, more times than not, are NOT THE
DEFINITION of the word being used. The doctor put a SPLINT on the boy’s broken leg.
Is therefore, the definition of a “leg” something on which
you put a splint? American
Standard Dictionary: leg:
1. A limb or an
appendage of an animal, used for locomotion or support.
2. One of the lower
or hind limbs in humans and primates.
3. The part of the
limb between the knee and foot in vertebrates.
4. The back part of
the hindquarter of a meat animal., etc., etc., SIXTEEN Definitions,
and not one: a leg is something on which you put a “SPLINT.” 2Pe 3:8
“… one day [24
hours?]is with the Lord as a thousand years and a thousand years as one
day." Is “a thousand
years” the definition of the word “day?”
No, it is one of the ways in which the word “day” is used. Gen
2:4 These
are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they
were created, in the day [24 hours?] that the LORD God made the
earth and the heavens, Is
the period of time God used to “make the earth and the heavens,” the
DEFINITION of the word “day?” These are uses of “day” not definitions! Gen
2:17 But
of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shall not eat of it:
for in the day [24 hours?] that thou eat thereof thou
shall surely die. Is
the period of time it took for Adam to “eat of the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil,” the DEFINITION of the word “day.”
But was that period of time called a day?
Yes, of course it was. Usage
of a word is not the definition of a word. Psa
95:8
Harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in
the day [24 hours?] of temptation in the wilderness: Is
the period of FORTY YEARS in the wilderness the DEFINITION of the word
“day?” Of course not.
But is it called a day?
Yes. A 24-hour
day? NO. Psa
110:5
The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the
day [24 hours]
of his wrath. Is
the period of God’s wrath on this wicked world called a “day?”
Yes. Is this long period
of time the DEFINITION of the word day?
No, of course not. LISTEN:
Virtually 100% of the two billion Christians in the world believe
that God created the heavens and the earth and all that in them is in
six 24-hour periods called days. The
world of science scoffs at the Scriptures and Christians because of just
such nonsense teaching. Most
Scientists “think” the Bible teaches six 24-hour creation days, and
virtually all Christian teachers absolutely teach that the creation days
of Genesis One are 24-hour days. This is not only scientifically untrue,
but it is absolutely Scripturally untrue, and we are going to prove it
once and for all right here today. So
it is the Christian theologians and teachers that are causing God and
His Word to be blasphemed in the world today.
One of the first responses many Scientists will bring up in
response to whether the Bible is accurate and dependable is, the stupid
and unscientific teaching that this earth is only about six thousand
years old and that 95% of the world’s water-laid strata is the result
of Noah’s global flood. Little
do most of them know, that the Scriptures are in totally agreement with
most of the finds of geologists, scientists, astronomers, etc.
It is very very important that we know the truth on such vital
subjects. CONTINUING…………………… The
first and primary use, meaning, and definition of the word “day” is
this: Gen 1:5 “And
calling is the Elohim the light "day [24 hours?], and
the darkness He calls "night [24 hours?]" And coming is
it to be evening and coming to be morning, day one.” God did not change His
definition of a day half way through the same verse. Notice
that the darkness is NOT CALLED DAY.
NIGHT is not DAY. Gen
1:16
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the
day [24 hour period?], and the lesser light to rule the night….[a 24 hour
night?—that’s 48 hours]!! If
“the day” is 24 hours, then the sun would rule
the day AND THE NIGHT. Fact
is, there would BE NO NIGHT. How
stupid is that? Why do they
despise the Word of God? The
sun rules the day, the sun
does NOT RULE THE NIGHT. Am
I going to fast for anyone? Apparently
I am. Rom 1:22
Alleging themselves to be wise, they are made stupid. (CLV). Even
David knew that “day and night” were two different things:
Psa 74:16
The day [24
hours?] is thine, the night also [a different 24
hours?] is thine: thou hast prepared the light and the sun. ***
This one is precious! This
one like no other Scripture shows how one who professes to be wise, is
often dumber than a rock!! [Concordant:
‘STUPID’]. Joh
11:9
Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours
in the day [in the 24-hour day?]
day? And what is
their Unscriptural definition of a day?
Read that again! Did
Jesus really mean: “Are there not twelve hours in the 24-hour day?”
And AGAIN…!! Am I
going to fast for anyone? Joh 9:4-5
I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day
[24 hours?]: the night cometh, when no man can work.
As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
COMMENT: Jesus is never called the “night
of the world.” 2Pe 1:19
We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well
that ye take heed, as unto a light that shines in a dark place, until
the day dawn [does the ‘day’ dawn at dusk? In the evening?
In the DARK?], and the DAY STAR arise in your hearts.
COMMENT: Is this
“milk of God’s Word?” : Is
this ‘day’ star a 24 hour star?
Can they not see anything “spiritual” Strongs:
day star:
G5459 phōsphoros From
G5457 and G5342; light bearing (“phosphorus”), that
is, (specifically) the morning star (figuratively): - day
star. What
did our friend say: You'll never attempt the book of Rev. or any other spiritual teaching,
because you have no clue as to what’s being talked about. Your flock
may not know this, but I do. Uh-oh!
Look out! Ray is
going to teach something “spiritual” from the book of Revelation:
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things
in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and THE
BRIGHT AND
MORNING STAR.”
Morning: G3720 orthrinos
From G3722; relating to the dawn, that is, matutinal
(as an epithet of Venus, especially brilliant in the early day): -
morning. “The
bright and MORNING STAR, IS…the DAY Star,” and that “Day Star” is Jesus, not some physical, unscriptural,
24-hour cycle which would also include the NIGHT.
Jesus is not called the “night and day star,” nor the
“NIGHT star,” but rather “the DAY Star.” And
I gleaned all that by comparing Joh 11:9;
Joh 9:4-5;
and II Pet. 1:29 with that
‘spiritual’ book of Revelation 22:16
of which I have not a CLUE as to its meaning.
And
by the way, the reason any man doesn’t stumble is because he is
walking in the DAY, and not in the NIGHT, and there are only TWELVE
HOURS in a day, not twenty-four. So
then……………….. show me where the Scriptures define a “day”
as 24 hours? Show me? And
just where are we told that “an evening and a morning” equals 24
hours? Where?
A 24 hours period being called “a day” is virtually unknown
in all of Scripture. I don’t know of one example.
When the night portion of a 24-hour rotation of the earth (sunset
to sunset) is meant, it states that the night is included.
Why? Because the
word “day” does not include the NIGHT. They are two different
things. Day is found 2200
times in Scripture and not once is it specified as being a 24 hour
period. But hundreds and
hundreds and hundreds of times it is specified as being the LIGHT
portion of a mean solar day when the sun is shining on that portion of
the earth. Dictionary
definitions “DAY—1.
The period of LIGHT between dawn and nightfall: the interval from
sunrise to sunset.” COMMENT:
Say, isn’t that God’s very Own definition of a day as well
(Gen. 1:5)? 2.
The time of LIGHT between two nights.
3. DAYLIGHT. 4. DAYTIME.
5. SUNSHINE.
6. An AGE.
7. The portion of a
24-hour period that is devoted to work, as in an
eight-hour day. 8.
A period of time in history,
an era. 9. The mean
solar day of 24 hours beginning at mean midnight.
10. One revolution
of the earth on its axis, 24 hours, called the astronomical day (begins
and ends at noon). 11. A specified time, period, or number of years. 12. Any
extension of time. Dictionary
definition of NIGHT: 1. The
period from sunset to sunrise. 2.
The period of actual darkness after sunset and before sunrise.
3. The time from dusk to dawn when no sunlight is visible
4. Any period or condition of darkness or gloom. 4. A period of
intellectual or moral degeneration.
5. A time of grief. 6.
Death. The beginning of
darkness. Night can in
certain modern usages be a part of a “day,” however, day can never
ever under any circumstances be a part of a “night.”
And nowhere in Scripture that I have found is a “day”
specifically composed of both the daylight and the darkness of night.
So clearly they are different and must be defined differently. Do you see anywhere
in there the definition of a day being: “one evening and one
morning?” That’s
because an evening and a morning is NOT a definition of a day, anymore
than “a thousand years” is the definition of a day, or the period of
God’s wrath is the definition of a day, or that forty years in the
wilderness is the definition of a day. This detractor uses
the Concordant version in his definition: “And coming is it
to be evening and coming to be morning, day one.” They would have
done well to stick to the King James, because by trying to present amore
accurate translation, they have once more shot themselves in the foot.
The King James
better serves their heretical teaching on this subject, whereas the
Concordant and others, utterly destroys their interpretation nonsense. (ASV)
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.
And there was evening and there was morning, one day.
[Yes there “was” evening and
morning, but not until it first finished “coming.”] (Rotherham)
and God called the light, day, but the darkness, called he, night. So it
was evening—and it was morning, one day. (YLT)
and God calls to the light `Day,' and to the darkness He has
called `Night;' and there is an evening, and there is a morning--day
one. (New
American Bible) Thus
evening came, and morning followed—the first day. (Moffatt)
Evening came and morning came, making one day. (New
World Translation) And
there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a first day. Hebrew
English Interlinear: And He is calling Elohim to-light day and to darkness He
calls night and-he-
is-becoming evening and he-is-becoming morning day one. (CLV)
And calling is the Elohim the light "day, and the darkness He calls
"night." And coming is it to be evening and coming to be
morning, day one. This
very exact word in Hebrew meaning “he
is COMING” or “IT IS COMING”
is used hundreds of times in the Old Testament, and we can
learn a lot from how it is used. First,
just what in the world does God mean by “it is coming?”
“Coming from where? Notice
verse Gen. 1:3, And saying is the Elohim, "Become light!" And it is
becoming light. Verse
9 “and it is becoming
so. Verse 11 “and it
is becoming so. Verse
24 “and it is becoming so. Verse
30 “and it is becoming so.” NO,
when God gave these commands, “it was NOT so,” but rather it was “becoming”
so, over an extended period of time. So
there was not “evening and morning,” as the King James and others
say, but only after it CAME to
be so” “WAS”
it so. So
again: Where did the first
evening come from? Where
was it before it started “coming?” My
detractors contend that Gen. 1:1 to Gen. 1:5 all happened on day one of
this creation and remaking week. So
where or when was there a period of “time” or a “day” before day
one? There wasn’t a
“day one” until AFTER the “coming” of the evening and the
“coming” of the morning, so when and where did it start “coming”
BEFORE THERE WAS ANYTHING? American
Heritage College Dictionary: coming:
“To advance toward a
specified place,’ To make progress, to advance, To reach a particular
point, To arrive as in due coarse, To move into view, to appear,
To occur in time, to take place, To arrive at a particular
result or end, To arrive at or reach a particular state or
condition, …to become available for use…to perform a function in a
particular way, To progress or advance in increments as Darkness came on
after seven. [Oh
really, and what was it BEFORE it was “dark”—“evening”
maybe?
Next: This verse
does not say “And coming is it
to be night and coming is it to be day, day one” does it?
DOES IT? NO IT
DOESN’T. So why contend
that it does and that that is what it means?
It clearly is not “night and day” that is spoken of in these
verses, but rather “evening and morning.”
And these particular “evenings and mornings” are nowhere
presented as 24-hour periods. American Heritage:
“evening: 1. The period of decreasing daylight between afternoon and
night, Webster’s:
“evening: the latter part and close of the day, and the early
part of the night, Strong’s #6153,
“evening—dusk, eventide.” Webster’s: “dusk:
to become dark, to make dark or gloomy.” American Heritage:
“dusk: the darker
stage of twilight; esp. in the evening.” Lev.
11:24—“unclean UNTIL evening.”
Not all night, just till “evening.” Ruth 2:17—Ruth
“gleaned UNTIL evening,” Not
all night, just till “evening.” American Heritage:
“morning—the first or early part of the day…the dawn Webster’s: “morning—dawn…a period of first
development—beginning.” NOTE:
Isn’t it astounding that
even our English Dictionaries understood that “morning’ carries the
connotation of something new, a new beginning, a period of first
development. Evening:
Gloominess, disorder, chaos….a period of increasing DARKNESS. Morning:
a period of first development, beginning, the coming of LIGHT. WHY?
Why darkness before light? Why
chaos before order and unity? Notice how Onkelos
translates Gen. 1:31—“A God
saw everything that He had made, and, behold, it was very good [Onkelos—‘a
unified order’] and coming is it to be evening and coming is it
morning, a sixth [yome/day/time]” Chaos to unified
order. Do we have examples
of just how this works? Yes
we do, and we are looking at one of right here in Genesis One.
Notice…. Gen 1:2
And the earth was [Heb:
was already or had existed] without form, and void; and darkness was
upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the
face of the waters. This
is NOT a condition suitable for humanity:
Isa 45:18
For3588 thus3541 saith559 the
LORD3068 that created [Heb: barah—bring a new thing
into existence]1254 the
heavens;8064 God430 himself1931 that
formed [Heb: yatsar—He ‘yatsar/formed humanity {Gen 2:8} and He
yatsar/formed the earth to
be inhabited]3335 the
earth776 and made6213 it; he1931 hath
established3559 it, he created [Heb:
barah]1254 it
not3808 in vain, [Heb: tohu--to lie waste; a desolation
(of surface), that is, desert; figuratively a worthless
thing; adverbially in vain: - confusion, empty place, without
form, nothing, (thing of) nought, vain, vanity, waste, wilderness]8414
he formed3335 it to be inhabited: [‘to dwell, to
inhabit’ Concordant: Gen. 1:2(CLV) Yet
the earth became a CHAOS and vacant—uninhabited!], and
darkness was on the surface of the submerged chaos. Yet the
spirit of the Elohim is vibrating over the surface of the water]. So
what is the solution to such “uninhabitable, chaotic, DARKNESS?”
This
is amazing stuff: Which came first the chicken or the egg?
Which came first, darkness or light?
Isa 45:7 I
form [Heb: yatsar—to mold into a form]3335
the LIGHT,216 and create [Heb: barah—bring
something new into existence]1254
DARKNESS:2822 I make6213 peace,7965
and create1254 evil:7451 I589 the LORD3068
do6213 all3605 these428 things.
Now
Gen. 1:3--And God said, Let there
be LIGHT: and there was [Heb: ‘is becoming’] light.
And the coming of “light” ushers in the six time periods for
refashioning chaos into order: From (Gen. 1:2) tohu--to
lie waste; a desolation (of surface), that is, desert;
figuratively a worthless thing; adverbially in vain: - confusion,
empty place, without form, nothing, (thing of) nought, vain, vanity,
waste, wilderness, To
(Gen. 1:31) “a unified
ORDER.” Does
God give us any examples of just how chaos
is turned into order? Yes
(Gen. 2:11-12—GOLD and Gems—and later men have found diamonds. And did God
“create/barah” these things in Genesis 1:1 or did “the earth bring them forth” (Gen.
1:11)? Gold and diamonds
come from violent and chaotic eruptions of the earth’s
surface—VOLCANOES! ********** The
whole plan of human salvation is based on this process of going from
“chaos to order.” Read
I Cor. 15:42-58…..Human chaos and tragedy to harmonious, spiritual
VICTORY!!! ********** There
is not one Scripture which states, or shows, or insinuates that a
“day” consists of 12 hours of daylight and 12 hours of night time.
Or that a “day” consists of 24 hours.
Or that a “day” consists of a period of time from one sunset
until another sunset. Show me ONE? Maybe
the example of the Sabbath works: Exo 20:8
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Exo
20:9
Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
[Are these ‘days’ 24 hour days?] Exo
20:10 But
the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it
thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy
manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is
within thy gates: [is
this Sabbath ‘day’ a 24 hour day?] Exo 20:11 For in six days the
LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and
rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and
hallowed it.” [There is absolutely no
indication that God “made” anything in the DARK!!] Well
there it is: We are to keep
one DAY holy, and labor the six other days of the week.
Is this not clearly saying these days must all be 24 HOUR days?
Give me a break. On
the Sabbath “day” we are not to work.
Does this mean day AND night or just day?
We need to look at the rest of the commandment to know for sure.
How many days could they work according to this commandment?
Answer: 6 days. Day AND night? Are
you CRAZY? Does anyone in
their right mind really believe that God commanded Israel that must work
SIX TWENTY-FOUR HOUR DAYS in a row, 144 HOURS of work before they get a
days rest?? What
about the “day” of atonement? Was
it not a 24 hour period? Well,
if a day is a 24 hour period, all that need be stated is to keep
atonement on such and such a date for ONE DAY.
But no, that is not how God instructed.
Everyone knew that a “day” refers to the daylight portion of
a mean solar day cycle, therefore to make it clear that this fast was to
be the entire 24 hour cycle and not just a “day”—the daylight
portion, as in not working on the Sabbath DAY, God clearly states: Lev
23:32
It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall
afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from
even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath. They
worked for six sun-lit days and rested for one sun-light day.
In the case of atonement, they did more than cease from just
“work,” but they were to afflict their souls (fast) and they were to
do it not for just the sun-lit day, but “from
even UNTO even.” If
“the ninth day
of the month at even” represents a 24 hours cycle, what sense
is there in commanding that this observance must be “from
even UNTO even?” It
is nonsense to say one must observe atonement “AT EVEN” on the
“ninth day of the month” and then state that it must last “from
even UNTO even,” if
a day already means 24 hours or from sunset until sunset. Even
Dr. Strong indicates that a singular day can be used to represent a
period from sunset until the next sunset, but this is because God
Himself already substantiated such in His commandment on observing the
day of atonement from “even
unto even,” as that was NOT the normal way to reckon “a day”
in Scripture. Moses was in
the mount with God not just for forty days, but for “forty days A-N-D
forty nights” (Ex. 25:18). During
Noah’s flood, it didn’t rain for just forty days, no, we are told it
rained for “forty days A-N-D forty nights” (Gen. 7:12).
Night is not part of day, therefore we are informed that it
rained “day” and AND “night” continuously.
Jesus fasted in the wilderness not for just forty days (and then
could have possible ate a big meal each day after sunset), no,
Matthew informs us that He fasted for “forty days A-N-D forty
nights” (Matt. 4:2). Well
what about, Gen 1:5
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.
And the evening and the morning were the first day. Or:
(CLV) And calling is the Elohim
the light "day, and the darkness He calls "night." And
coming is it to be evening
and coming to be morning, day
one. It does not say:
“And coming is it to be night and coming to be day, day
one.” It
does not say: “And coming
is it to be evening and
coming is it to be evening again,
day one.” No,
here is what it really does say:
“And coming is it to be evening [DUSK] and coming is it to be morning [DAWN], day one.” The
coming of DUSK & DAWN was “day one,” not the coming of night
time and day time. Not 24
hours. Let’s be Scripturally honest, shall we? These verses do not say that “coming
is it to be night and coming is it to be day, day one, second day, third
day…” Etc. So
Gen. 1 does not prove a “day” means 24 hours, nor does any other
Scriptures using “evening and morning” represent a 24 hour period.
[1]
Psa 55:17 Evening,6153
and morning,1242
AND AT NOON,6672 will I
pray,7878 and cry aloud:1993
and he shall hear8085 my
voice.6963 So
here we have proof that just a “evening and a morning” do not
represent a 24 hour cycle, seeing that “at NOON” is also part of
David’s prayer day. In
fact neither “evening and morning AND NOON” combined represent an
entire 24 hour cycle. David
did not praying FROM evening UNTIL morning and then FROM morning UNTIL
noon, and then again FROM noon UNTIL evening, which would have been a
full 24 hour cycle. These represent only three PORTIONS of a 24 hour cycle.
If David prayed for one hour in the evening, morning and at noon,
it represents in this scriptural example only about 13% of a 24-hour
cycle. If evening, morning
(and noon) is the definition of a 24-hour day, then David did nothing in
his entire life, except pray. He
never went to war, never ate, and never slept. [2]
Psa 90:5
Thou carry them [the children of men, verse 4] away as with a flood; they are as a sleep: In the morning they are like
grass which grows up [the early and middle years of life].
Psa
90:6
In the morning it flourishes, and grows up; In the evening [years
and years later as life nears its end] it is cut down, and withers. GOT
QUESTIONS.ORG: We
can determine how yom should be interpreted in (Genesis 1:5-22) simply by examining
the context in which we find the word and then comparing its context
with how we see its usage elsewhere in Scripture. By doing this we let
Scripture interpret itself. The Hebrew word yom is used 2301 times in the Old Testament. Outside of Genesis
1, yom plus a number
(used 410 times) always indicates an ordinary day, i.e., a 24-hour
period. The words “evening” and “morning” together (38 times
[NO, 26 times]) always indicate an ordinary day. Yom
+ “evening” or “morning” (23 times) always indicates an ordinary
day. Yom + “night”
(52 times) always indicates an ordinary day. WHAT
A CROCK! THE
UNSCRIPTURAL ORDINAL NUMBERS ARGUMENT: ONE
day……. Gen 33:13 And he said unto him, My lord knows that the children are
tender, and the flocks and herds with young are with me: and if
men should overdrive them one day, all the flock will die.
Note: NOT 24 hours. They
did not drive the herd all day AND all night long. TWO
days…… Ex. 16:8
And Moses said, This shall be, when the LORD shall give
you in the evening flesh to eat, and in the morning bread to the full… Exo
16:29
See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he
gives you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every
man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
Note: the bread was gather in the morning only—two mornings
equals TWO “DAYS.” Now then: Did
they eat flesh for 12 hours (all day) and then eat bread for 12 hours
(all night). If
“evening and morning” means a 24-hour day, then they ate
flesh and bread for a total of TWENTY-FOUR HOURS!! THREE days……
Gen 30:36
And he set three days' journey betwixt himself and Jacob:
and Jacob fed the rest of Laban's flocks.
Note: Did they drive
them 72 straight hours? FOUR days……
Jdg 11:40
That the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the
daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.
Note: Did they lament for 24 hours a day—NINETY-SIX straight
hours? They lamented during
the day and then WENT TO BED AT NIGHT. FIVE days……
Num 11:19
Ye shall not eat one day, nor two days, nor five days,
neither ten days, nor twenty days; But even a whole month, until
it come out at your nostrils…” Note:
Did they eat 24 hrs a day for a
month? SIX days……
Exo 16:21
And they gathered it every morning, every man according to his
eating: and when the sun waxed hot, it melted. Exo 16:22 And it came to pass, that
on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man:
and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses. SEVEN days……
Gen 31:23
And he took his brethren with him, and pursued after him seven
days' journey; and they overtook him in the mount Gilead.
Note: Did they
journey for 168 straight hours? No, they journed seven DAYS (day-LIGHT, while the SUN WAS
SHINING). EIGHT days……
2Ch 29:17
Now they began on the first day of the first month to
sanctify, and on the eighth day of the month came they to the porch of
the LORD: so they sanctified the house of the LORD in eight days;
and in the sixteenth day of the first month they made an end.
Note: Is there
reason to believe they worked 24 hr days? NINE days……
Num 7:60
On the ninth day Abidan the son of Gideoni, prince of the
children of Benjamin, offered: Note: Did
Abidan’s offering take 24 hours? TENTH day……Exo
12:3
Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth
day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb,
according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:
Note: Not the tenth
NIGHT, nor 24 hours. ELEVEN
days…… Deu 1:2
(There are eleven days' journey from Horeb by the
way of mount Seir unto Kadeshbarnea.)
Eleven “days,” or “daylight” periods, not 264 hours! TWELVE days……
Ezr 8:31 Then
we departed from the river of Ahava on the twelfth day of
the first month, to go unto Jerusalem: and the hand of our God was upon
us, and he delivered us from the hand of the enemy, and of such as lay
in wait by the way. Note:
Since a “day” is the “sun-lit” portion of a mean solar cycle,
yet our detractors insist that the creation periods in Genesis
one all begin at “evening” which to them is the definition of a day,
does anyone really believing that they waited until evening and began
this trip IN THE DARK? THIRTEEN days:
…… Est 9:18
But the Jews that were
at Shushan assembled together on the thirteenth day
thereof, and on the fourteenth thereof; and on the fifteenth day
of the same they rested, and made it a day of feasting and gladness.
Note: they did not
assembly on the 13th day IN THE DARK.
Also, if these days represent 24-hour days, then it is not
necessary to assemble on the 13th AND 14th AND 15,
seeing that on the 14th and 15 they would have ALREADY BEEN
ASSEMBLED FROM THE 13th!! FOURTEEN days……
Est 9:19 Therefore
the Jews of the villages, that dwelt in the unwalled towns, made the fourteenth
day of the month Adar a day of gladness and feasting, and a
good day, and of sending portions one to another. Note:
There is no reason to believe this feast day lasted 24 hours, and
then at sunrise of the 15th day, they all went to bed. FIFTEEN days……
Num 29:12
And on the fifteenth day of the seventh month ye shall
have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work, and ye shall keep
a feast unto the LORD seven days:
Note: I’ve heard
of long sermons, but 24 HOURS? Did
they eat and feast 24 HOURS A DAY FOR 168 STRAIGHT HOURS!?
How many more examples do you want?
WILL
YOU INHERIT GOD’S KINGDOM? Are you overwhelmed
by all of the seemingly negative and almost impossible statements in the
Scriptures regarding the requirements for entering God’s Kingdom? How
about this statement: “Be ye therefore PERFECT even as your Father which is in heaven is
perfect” (Matt. 5:48). How
confident are you in the area of becoming as PERFECT as your heavenly
Father? And how confident
are you with all of the following admonitions and warnings regarding
entrance into God’s Kingdom? Luk 9:62 And Jesus said unto him,
No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for
the kingdom of God. Luk
14:26-27
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and
mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his
own life also, he cannot be my disciple. And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me,
cannot be my disciple. Mat 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but
he that endures to the end shall be saved. And
remember the warning to the Seven Churches.
It is only “…to him who OVERCOMES….”
that entrance into the Kingdom is promised, (Rev. 2 & 3). Heb
6:4
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened,
and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the
Holy Ghost, Heb
6:5
And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world
to come. Heb
6:6
If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance;
seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him
to an open shame. Act
14:22
Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them
to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation
enter into the kingdom of God. 1Pe
4:17
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house
of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be
of them that obey not the gospel of God? Mat
7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way,
which leads unto life, and few there be that find it. Mat
7:19
Every tree that brings not forth good fruit is hewn down, and
cast into the fire. Mat
7:22
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not
prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy
name done many wonderful works? Mat
7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from
me, ye that work iniquity. Mat
10:38
And he that takes not his cross, and follows after me, is not
worthy of me. Mat
12:36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak,
they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. Mat
12:37
For by thy words thou shall be justified, and by thy words you
shall be condemned. Mat
5:20
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the
righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case
enter into the kingdom of heaven. Rev 3:16 So then because thou art
lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of My mouth. 2Pe
3:17
Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before,
beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall
from your own stedfastness. 2Pe
2:20
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world
through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are
again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them
than the beginning. 2Pe
2:21
For it had been better for them not to have known the way of
righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the
holy commandment delivered unto them. Jam
4:17
Therefore to him that knows to do good, and doeth it not,
to him it is sin. Luk
12:47
And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself,
neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
1Pe
5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a
roaring lion, walks about, seeking whom he may devour: 1Co 10:12
Wherefore let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he
fall. 1Co
11:19
For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are
approved may be made manifest among you.
COMMENT: Oh great,
so now we have to figure out which ones of us are the heretics! Mat
18:3
And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become
as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Luk
14:33
So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsakes not all that
he hath, he cannot be my disciple. Had
enough? How
many are sometimes bothered by such Scriptures and think that maybe we
just won’t make it? We
just won’t be acceptable to God?
We fold every time a severe trial comes our way?
You want to live godly, but you just can’t conquer some sins,
and then all these many Scriptures condemn you.
Am I talking to anyone in this room? It’s
not a very peaceful or rewarding life living like this with so many
uncertainties, is it? Never
ever being quite certain as to where you stand with God.
We see too many areas where we know we fall short and then we
condemn ourselves. Or
worse, we fall short and JUST THINK we are doing fine, that we are in
effect spiritual giants, when we are barely spiritual babies. I
want everyone to leave this Conference with a confidence from God that
will enable him to live in peace with himself/herself, and be assured
that he will be in the Kingdom of God and receive a reward.
God did not call us to a life of uncertainly, doubt, and
frustration. Ninety-nine
percent of those in Christendom know for a fact that when they die they
are going to heaven, when in reality and according to the Scriptures
they know NO SUCH THING. Is
your assurance that you will be in the Kingdom of God built on any more
solid ground that these? What Paul has to say about
QUALIFYING: "Endeavor
to present yourself to God QUALIFIED as an unashamed worker ..." (II
Tim. 2:15). "...
that those also who are QUALIFIED may be becoming apparent among
you" (I Cor. 11:19). There
is but one Scripture on "qualifying" in all of the
circumcision writings (CLV)
“Happy is the man who is enduring trial, for, becoming qualified,
[K.J.V. ‘approved’] he will be obtaining the wreath of life, which
He promises to those loving Him” (James 1:12). HERE’S WHAT YOU
GOT GOING FOR YOU: Heb
6:10 For
God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labor of love,
which ye have shown toward His Name, in that ye have ministered to the
saints, and do minister. There’s the secret, but there also is the problem.
DO YOU “minister
to the saints?” THE KEY TO ACCOMPLISHING MISSION
IMPOSSIBLE: Mat
19:27
Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken
all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? Mat
19:28
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which
have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit
in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones,
judging the twelve tribes of Israel [OR, ten cities, five cities, etc.].
Mat
19:29 And
every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or
father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake,
shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. But
again we ask: Have you
“forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father or mother, or
wife, or children, or lands, FOR MY [Christ’s] SAKE?”
How are you to know whether you are doing all required to enter
God’s Kingdom? Just what
is it that you have sacrificed so that God will take you into His
Kingdom? What?
Jot down on a piece of paper the things that you have done and
are presently doing (according the Scriptures) that will ensure that you
will be in God’s Kingdom. Go
ahead….And don’t be looking at your neighbors paper. How
many of you feel confidence enough right now to come up here to the
podium and give the rest of us a Bible Study on just how we can leave
this Conference with the Scriptural confidence that we WILL BE IN THE
FIRST RESURRECTION AND KINGDOM OF GOD?...............anyone?? Are you doing these
things: Mar 9:23
Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are
possible to him that believeth. Are
you believing what it is you are to believe? Pro 23:7 For as he thinks in his
heart, so is he. Just
what is it that you are “thinking” most of your day? 1Ti
1:5
Now the end of the commandment [consummation of the charge] is
charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of
faith unfeigned: “Do
you possess a “pure heart/good conscience/faith unfeigned?” 2Ti
2:22
Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith,
charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart. Have
you fled all your youthful lusts? Do
you follow “righteousness, faith, charity, and peace, with them that
call on the Lord out of a “pure heart?”
Are you becoming PERFECT as your Heavenly Father is perfect? Is
there ANYTHING that is more important for you to know right now sitting
here in this room at this Conference? We all want God’s
approval. We all want to
hear God say: “WELL DONE Rom
14:17
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness,
and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. Rom
14:18
For he that in these things serves Christ is acceptable
to God, and approved of men. Rom
14:19
Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace,
and things wherewith one may edify another. How
well do you read and study God’s Word?
2Ti 2:15
Study [use
speed, make effort,
be prompt or earnest:
do diligence, endeavor,
labor, study]
to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needs not to
be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. READ
THE ENTIRE 25TH CHAPTER OF MATTHEW Those
who will and those who won’t be in the Kingdom of God……… Therefore, we
should be doing right, not just to avoid wrath or to receive a reward,
but rather because doing good to others IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I
CAN’T STOP SINNING! Heb 12:1,
Wherefore seeing we also
are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside
every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let
us run with patience the race that is set before us, Well, there’s
your answer: “Lay aside
[throw off, rid ourselves] the SIN which does so easily beset us
[entangles us, naturally entraps us, hinders us].” Now do you know how
to stop sinning? No? Rom 6:12-13--
Let not sin therefore
reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
Neither yield ye your members as instruments of
unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that
are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of
righteousness unto God. So we have:
lay aside sin; don’t let sin reign in you;
don’t yield yourself as an instrument of sin. See, you can do
it—just DO IT? Or rather
with sin, DON’T DO IT. How many of you
have tried to not do it—not sin?
Did it work? Do you
no longer sin? There are the
instructions as to what we must do, so what else can I tell you? Just do it; lay it
aside; throw it off; rid yourselves of sin; don’t let it reign over
you; don’t yield yourselves as instruments of unrighteousness and sin. Or as Jesus told the young woman caught in adultery:
“Go and SIN NO MORE!” Does everyone now
know how to stop sinning? Can
all of you now go out of here today and “SIN NO MORE?”
No? You don’t
think it will work? You
already tried for years? Well aren’t you
glad you came to this Bible Conference to get some encouragement from me
so that you can leave this Conference with your head held high? There is indeed hope for all of you: Rom 8:1
There is therefore now
no condemnation [Gk: ‘adverse sentence, condemnation] to them
which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the
Spirit. Rom. 14:1
Him
that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful
disputations. What in the world
does that verse mean? (ASV)
But him that is weak in
faith receive ye, yet not for decision of scruples. (Bishops)
Hym that is weake in the
fayth, receaue: not to iudgementes of disputyng. (CLV)
Now the infirm in the faith be
taking to yourselves, but not for discrimination of reasonings." (Rotherham)
Him that is weak in his faith,
receive ye,—not for disputing opinions:— (YLT)
And him who is weak in the
faith receive ye--not to determinations of reasonings (Living Bible) “Give
a warm welcome to any brother who wants to join you, even though his
faith is weak. Don’t criticize him for having different ideas from yours
about what is right or wrong. For
instance, don’t argue with him about whether or not to eat meat that
has been offered to idols.” 1Co
11:32 “But
when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not
be condemned [katakrinō to judge against, that is, sentence:
- condemn, damn] with the world.” WRATH IS:
PUNISHMENT & JUDGMENT Psa
78:49 He cast7971
upon them the fierceness2740 of his anger,639
wrath,5678 and indignation,2195 and trouble,6869
by sending4917 evil7451 angels4397 among them. Why:
Because of their great sin (Ver. 17)
Refused to “walk” in God’s law (V.10) Fierceness:
H2740
chârôn
burning anger: sore displeasure, fury, (fierce) wrath. Anger:
aph, ire: - anger, wrath. Wrath:
‛ebrah an outburst of
passion: - anger, rage, wrath. . Indignation:
za‛am,
froth at the mouth, that is, fury (especially of God’s
displeasure with sin): - angry, indignation, rage. Trouble:
tsârâh,
adversary,
adversity, affliction, anguish, distress, tribulation, trouble. Evil: ra‛
râ‛âh,' bad or evil ,
adversity, affliction, distress, grief, harm, heavy, hurt (-ful), ill (favoured)
mischief, misery, naughty, noisome,
sore, sorrow, trouble, vex, wicked, wretchedness, wrong. But NOT ON GOD’S
ELECT: Rom 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are
in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 1Th
5:9 For
God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord
Jesus Christ. But
God has appointed us to tribulation: 1Th 3:3-4--That
no man should be moved by these afflictions: for yourselves know that we
are appointed thereunto. For
verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer
tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know. God’s Elect are
God’s favorites upon whom He is now showing great favor. He does not hate us, neither is He angry with us. I Cor.
10:1-11…….We are NOT to do as those upon whom God poured out His
WRATH! SO
JUST HOW IS IT THAT WE STOP SINNING? The answer is, we
can’t, but God can and does. And
He does it BY GRACE, through faith:
Eph. 2:8. And
that is why: “There
is now NO CONDEMNATION to them which are in Christ Jesus, who
walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit” (Rom. 8:1). Do we chastise our
children when they do wrong because they always KNOW that they are doing
wrong? No.
God uses anger and wrath to TEACH humanity that what they ARE
doing is wrong, but God does not use anger and wrath on His very Elect. Nowhere does God pour out wrath upon His chosen saints. So
don’t think that God is angry with you because you have a lot of
trials and tribulations. It
is part of your training to become SONS OF GOD. But if we are “saved
by grace through faith, and that not of our own,” (Eph. 2:8), why
are we still sinning and seemingly unable to conquer certain sins? Well, there is a
process, and it is all according to God’s timing, not ours. First we are called
of God: “For you see your CALLING brethren….” (I Cor. 1:2 6).
This will bring about “wisdom, righteousness, sanctification, and redemption” (Verses
30-31). But there are other
processes necessary to reach that goal.
We must first “repent
and believe the Gospel” Mar 1:14
Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee,
preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, Mar 1:15
And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at
hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. And just how do we “repent?”
Repentance too comes from God: Rom 2:3
And think you this, O man, that judge them which do such things,
and do the same, that thou shall escape the judgment of God? Rom
2:4 Or despise you the
riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing
that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? If you just can’t
understand how this sinful world can do the evils that they do, and you
shake your head at them, then you are “despising
the riches of His goodness………….not knowing that the goodness of
God [not your own wise choice to follow God] leads
you to repentance.” So
if you are going to stop judging [condemning] the sinful world, you are
going to have to “HUMBLE yourself” (James 4:6-11). Just how does one
acknowledge another’s sins, shortcomings, and stupidity, and yet “not
speak EVIL one of another brother.” First of all, those
who despise the word of God and do evil, are not really “brothers,” are
they? Mat 12:47
Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand
without, desiring to speak with thee. Mat 12:48
But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my
mother? and who are my brethren? Mat 12:49
And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said,
Behold my mother and my brethren! Mat 12:50
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in
heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. Secondly, there is a
giant difference between acknowledging someone’s sins and shortcoming,
and condemning him to some evil fate.
Notice how Jesus handled the evil and sinning scribes and
Pharisees: Notice that Jesus said
they were “blind.” Now
the very last verse: Mat
23:39 For I say unto you,
Ye shall not see Me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is
he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Ah yes, They will see
Jesus and they will be “BLESSED.”
Jesus said so: Jesus did not condemn them to an hopeless,
endless, hell of suffering. So it is necessary to
be blessed and covered by the
Sacrifice of Jesus. How do
we come to accept Jesus? Joh 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw [Gk:
‘drag’] him: and I will raise
him up at the last day. So it is GOD Who calls
you; it is GOD Who
brings you to repentance; and
it is GOD Who brings you to
Christ. But wait.
Didn’t Jesus say that we must also “believe”
the gospel? Faith and
believe are the same Greek word. Surely
here is where WE must do our part by supplying the faith necessary to
believe, right? NO, wrong,
it too is of God: Eph 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that [that
FAITH] not of yourselves: it is the GIFT OF GOD: So how then do we
conquer sin, overcome, endure unto the end and all the rest of it?
Same answer: It is GOD Who does these things in us: Eph
2:10 For we are HIS [GOD’S]
workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works,
which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. So then it appears
that “ALL is of God,” doesn’t
it? Rom. 3:23-27—Can’t
boast! ALL
IS OF GOD: I Cor. 11:12;
II Cor. 5:18; Eph. 4:6; Rom.
11:36--
(CLV) seeing that out of Him and through Him and for Him IS
ALL: to Him be the glory for the eons! Amen! God
will see us through. God is no failure. We
are God’s achievement. Yes,
Paul worked on himself so as to not be a castaway
(I Cor. 9:27), but he
had complete confidence that: “a crown of righteousness” was already waiting for him and ALL
OF US at the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ (II Tim. 4:8). ARE
YOU “…YET CARNAL?” Carnal:
Probably from the
base of G4563; flesh (as stripped of the skin), that is,
(strictly) the meat of an animal (as food), or (by extension) the
body (as opposed to the soul (or spirit), or as the symbol of
what is external, or (by implication) human nature (with
its frailties (physically or morally) and passions), or (specifically) a
human being (as such): carnal, carnally; flesh, fleshly. Is
it bad to be “carnally minded?”
YES! Rom 8:6
For to be carnally
minded is DEATH; but to be spiritually minded is
life and peace. Carnal minded and
spirit minded are at diametric opposite poles, and one is life and the
other is death. Are YOU
“carnally minded? or spiritually minded?”
Or…..maybe you are a little of both.
Could that then possibly make you “lukewarm?” Rev 3:15
I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would
thou wert cold or hot. Rev 3:16
So then because you art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I
will spew [vomit] you out of my mouth. Rev 3:17
Because thou say, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have
need of nothing; and know not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and
poor, and blind, and naked: Rev 3:18
I counsel you to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou may
be rich; and white raiment, that you may be clothed, and that the
shame of your nakedness do not appear; and anoint your eyes with eye
salve, that you may see. Rev 3:19
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore,
and repent ARE
YOU RICH AND INCREASED WITH GOODS? You
know the truth about the Christian hell
of eternal torture, immortal souls, going to heaven, tithing money,
secret rapture, fire & brimstone, gehenna fire & lake of fire,
death is not life, hope of resurrection, saved by grace through faith,
spiritual Sabbath keeping, commandments are spiritual, Sovereignty of
God, fabled free will, the god of context, the Bible is to be taken
literally, etc. You
have INCREASED in many spiritual gifts of understanding. BUT
ARE YOU YET CARNAL? Are you
guilty of despising portions of God’s Word? Are
you yet more interested in physical/material things, than things of the
Spirit? The
Corinthians were enriched and increased “…in
all utterance, and in all knowledge”
(I Cor. 1:4-7). And still, they were “YET
CARNAL” (I Cor. 3:3). There are dozens
(hundreds) of ways in which we can all be “yet carnal.” Let’s look
at just a couple of areas where we just might yet be deceived: I certainly do not
have the time to cover many of them, but my hope is that covering a few
in more detail, you will prepare you minds to obey all such commandments
and admonitions from God’s Word.
Okay, here’s one--You all have heard:
“For where you treasure is there will your heart be also”
(Matt. 6:20-21). I know for a FACT that this is one important area where most
of you, are “Yet carnal.” Read: THE RICH YOUNG
RULER (Luke
18:18-25)…..He
was a good and conscientious man, but he woefully lacked “ONE
THING.” He loved mammon
more than he loved God. He KNEW the
commandments of God, and he obeyed them from his youth! But was “yet carnal?” “He
went away SORROWFUL” (Ver.
23)! Was that being “spiritually
minded” or “carnally minded?” You say:
“But Jesus asked A LOT of this rich young ruler.”
Yes, and don’t think that He doesn’t ask A LOT of us.
Jesus said that “riches” will keep one from entering the
kingdom of God. He didn’t
say it was impossible, but ‘hardly possible.” What if anything
then, can a rich man do to enter the Kingdom?
Luke 19:2, Zaccheus was RICH, but what did he do with his riches?
He gave HALF of all his riches to the poor. There are many many
things which “God HATES.” Pro 6:17
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that
shed innocent blood, Pro
6:18 An heart that
deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to
mischief, Pro
6:19 A false witness that
speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. mo 5:21 I hate,
I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn
assemblies. But how many times are we told what specifically God LOVES? First
thing mentioned in the Scriptures that God “loves?” Joh 16:27
For the Father Himself LOVES YOU, because ye have loved
me, and have believed that I came out from God?
DO YOU “love Jesus?” DO
YOU “believe that Jesus came out from God?”
(We will cover that portion in a later lecture) Second
thing mentioned in the Scriptures that God “loves?”
2Co 9:7 Every man
according as he purposes in his heart, so let him give; not
grudgingly, or of necessity: for
God loveth a cheerful giver. II Cor. 9:6-15—“…for
God loves A CHEERFUL GIVER.” Do you pretend that
this verse is not in the Bible? Does not apply to you? I said we are
going to get up close and personal in this Bible Conference.
I want to help you to grow spiritually and get rewarded for your
journey. What’s the difference between being “cheerful”
or being “sorrowful?” The
sorrowful man who came to
Jesus won’t be in the Kingdom of God. Some of you are saying: “RAY! I would
much prefer that talk to us about how “God loves US.” The cheerful giver is loved
of God and will be in God’s Kingdom, and He will also receive a
reward. Mat
16:25 For whosoever will
save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my
sake shall find it. Gal
6:7-9 Be not deceived; God
is not mocked: for whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap. For
he that sows to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he
that sows to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. And
let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if
we faint not. Luk
6:38 Give, and it shall be
given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and
running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure
that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again. I HAVE TRIED TO SET AN EXAMPLE OF
CHEERFUL GIVING I have personally
tried to set an example of accomplishing as much as possible with as
little as possible. I
stated in my tithing paper: “Never
have so many [the rich Christian world] accomplished so little with so
much.” That’s
especially true in the world of televangelists.
Soooo much money: soooo little accomplishment.
WHAT ABOUT THIS
MINISTRY: I believe we have
accomplished a great deal with a tiny amount of money, limited talent,
and only a handful of supporters, a few Forum moderators, two staff
members, and one researcher & writer.
We have reached probably close to six millions people to one
degree or another. More
importantly we have effected the lives and thinking of tens of
thousands, and have turned around completely the lives of several
thousands. And possibly
hundreds have seen the Light, and are spiritually converted.
Of these there are a couple of dozen who contribute to this
ministry, and of those couple of dozen there are approximately seven
people who support 95% of this ministry expense. For a few years,
there were two who carried out this work--Dennis Vogel my web master,
and myself. For ten years now
we have devoted our lives to this ministry.
I have put in an average of five to ten hours a day at Bible-Truths.com.
I seldom have slept more
than five or six hours a night. Even
those years when I worked full time in roofing, I worked five to ten
hours a day on our site. There
were long stretches when I put in 12 to 14 hours a day. I
have read and answered literally tens of thousands of emails. We have not so much as a secretary. Many write and say: “I
know you are extremely busy, but could you have one of your staff
researchers answer my enclosed questions for me?”
There are no staff researchers.
There really is no staff. When we started
Bible-Truths I seldom worked a full forty hours due to the fact that in
most cases we could not start work before 8am and we could never work
when it rained. But as I
averaged about $40 an hour, I did okay on a shorter work week.
My clients loved me, and I never had to advertise. I didn’t
even have a business telephone. Now then, if you
multiply $40/hr times just seven hours a day that I put into Bible
Truths, for 365 days (I usually only miss the days I am at a Conference)
for ten years, it comes out to be a sizable chunk of change (it’s
about a million dollars). I
took no salary and even paid my own way to Conferences, paid for
printing, paid for all my
office and computer needs, etc. Dennis
(my Web Master and founder of Bible-Truths.com) has devoted many
hundreds of hours plus thousands and thousands of dollars to this
ministry. Dennis is constantly upgrading the site.
We now video all of our studies and Conferences. My wife and I are
pretty frugal when it comes to money and materialism.
Had I not taken early retirement to devote more time to this
ministry, I could have (cleaned up as they say), if I continued roofing
during those next few years when all those hurricanes were destroying
roofs in Florida. My wife and I have
not taken a vacation in the last seven or eight years. (We did go to my
50th class reunion and visit my brothers whom I haven’t
seen in ten years). I
bought this new shirt, trousers and blazer and shoes I’m wearing
today--first new suit of clothing I bought in over ten years. The shoes
were $25—they’re not real leather. My wife hardly buys a thing unless it is 50-75% off.
God can bless your “little things” into “big things.”
Have you heard how I bought my house when we moved to Mobile in
2003? Six years
ago—Mobile Conference. Looking
for a house—one whole week, nothing.
My short prayer… “Lord, if you want me to move to Mobile,
find me a descent home” …My prayer was answered in just a few
minutes. My home cost
$125,000. My ALL STATE
agent told me the replacement value of my home is now $300,000! For six years now,
we used the old curtains that were left behind by the previous owners.
They were tattered, dirty, and faded.
So I let my wife get new curtains (50% off curtains/80% off the
rods and hardware--$100 rod assemblies =$19.95), and put fresh paint
over the flowery wall-papered walls. Last November I bought a new car. Did I say “new?” Actually
it is ten year old car going on its second hundred thousand miles, but I
love it and thank God for it. I
couldn’t be happier if it were a new Mercedes.
I try to do a lot
with a little. When we
moved to Mobile, I wanted to fix up our carport like an outdoor living
room. I saw this loveseat
at Hobby Lobby that I really liked. It
was over $400 dollars. Way
above my budget. Some
months later they had it setting at the entrance door on sale for $110.
I bought it. When
Betty Rogers moved into their new home she gave me their old swing set. As my wife desired to have you come over for Sunday lunch
after the Conference, we knew we would need more seating. So a few weeks
ago Dennis’ son helped me paint some old patio chairs and table left
behind by the previous owners. I
dug out a love seat from my storage shed that I salvaged from a dumpster
in Florida. It had reupholstered it and painted it black, then white,
and now I painted it Chinese red and will use it again. About a year ago,
when I was told I had only about six months to live, I did, however,
splurge and bought something that I wanted but couldn’t afford for
many years-- I bought a 50” flat screen TV at 30% off. Sears had a
great sale on a Panasonic, plus an additional three day sale, plus an
additional 10% if we put it on a Sears Charge Card.
So we bought it. So
SHOOT ME. Now don’t think
that I consider what I do to be some great sacrifice.
I don’t feel like I am missing out on anything in life, just
because I devote myself to this ministry.
It is what I love to do. And likewise, there
are in this room a number of people who love what we do, and contribute
regularly and generously to this ministry.
And they do it CHEERFULLY, FROM THE HEART, not of some necessity.
Most of our readers contribute nothing.
And most of the people who come to our Forum contribute nothing.
And most of you contribute nothing. And please don’t
think that I’m asking you to contribute.
I am not. That is
between you and your God what you do with your money.
But I am a teacher, so I’m going to teach. So, “Where is
your treasure? Where is
your heart?” Will you
continue to go away “sorrowful”
like the rich young ruler when it comes to parting with your
hard-earned money? You don’t have to support Bible-Truths, but support
something. Do as Jesus said
and give to the poor! But
don’t deceive yourself. Giving a couple of quarters to a panhandler
outside the entrance to Wal-Mart does not qualify as “GIVING TO THE
POOR!” AN
HERETIC EMAILED ME: Email from a
detractor who follows one of the men that disassociated with Bible
Truths some years ago. And this man fervently believes in the
“Salvation of ALL”—Trust me when I tell you that believing in the
Salvation of all is not the test for spiritual conversion.
I will read part of his email here and the other part in another
lecture: I felt that I should mail you
and thank you for all you do. God is using you in my life, and hope that
your healing will come soon. God is using your false teachings to
sharpen me for His use.
I beg you to turn from your false teaching, and really understand
what this means... What do you think your cancer
is; not the wrath of God? Jesus never sinned, yet endured the wrath of
God. Are you above 'your' master? I beg you to turn, and accept that the
wrath of God abides on all unGodlyness including your own. Your teachings are ALL
outward physical, they are the milk of the Word, and you know what that
means. You know what your doing, and just because those of YOUR flock
don't know any better and you 'wow' them with your 'knowledge' of how
foolish orthodoxy is they think therefore that your 'God's prophet' You've truned so far against
the word of God that your now begging money (anathama)... Do you think I get
angry with such mean-spirited slander?
No, I rejoice! There were those
who knew my cancer protocol was going to be quite expensive, and
volunteered to help with my expenses.
Dennis asked if he could put my address on the Forum (not our
home page) for anyone who wished to
contribute to that expense. So
now the enemies of the Gospel accuse me of “begging money” and
pronounce me ANATHAMATIZED—“excommunicated and cursed (Am.
Hert. Col. Dict: “a
prayer for evil or misfortune to befall someone”)!
Lovely Christ-like attitude, don’t you think? Don’t you become
guilty of such hatred toward others:
(James 3:9) So if
anyone thinks I am “begging money,” please don’t send any. As for
all of you who are “cheerful givers,” I say, THANK YOU and God bless
every one of you! I
wouldn’t have my head above water right now without you. We thank God daily
for all of you who are so generous and concerned for my personal health
and well-being and this ministry. The
financial situation in the world has taken its toll on our ministry this
past year. Dennis has to
turn off the advertising money periodically, as the funds just dry up
from time to time. Now
giving money and supporting this ministry is not the only way to lay up
for yourself treasure in heaven, but it is one way.
THE WIDOW’S MITES How many have heard
of the TWO WIDOW’S MITES by Jesus? Why
is this story in the Bible? Is
not “ALL Scripture is given
by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for
correction, for instruction in righteousness (II Tim. 3:16). How many of you
could spare two widow’s mites for this ministry?
How many of you have ever seen a widow’s mite—well here’s
one, two thousand years old. The widow who tossed her last two mites
into the temple treasury, has been extolled for two thousand years now
for that cheerful act of giving. *(Back to Luke: Luke
18, 19, 20, and 21 are all about money and riches and giving). Luk
21:1 And he looked up, and
saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury. Luk
21:2 And he saw also a
certain poor widow casting in thither two mites. Luk
21:3 And he said, Of a
truth I say unto you, that this poor widow hath cast in more than they
all: Luk
21:4 For all these have of
their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury
hath cast in all the living that she had. The
coin referred to in this passage was the “half prutah,” also known
in Greek as the “lepton.” Leptons were first minted by Alexander
Jannaeus beginning in the year 103 BC. These coins were of very low
value and were used only in the poor province of Judea. At the time of
Jesus it took 48 leptons just to buy a loaf of bread.
It took two leptons to equal one penny.
A penny would buy about half a slice of bread. Today you can buy
a “mite” for about a thousand times their original value. I paid $12
for this one…………………….. How many of you can
afford one slice of bread for this ministry?
Embarrassing isn’t it? Please don’t
think this is a plea for money, because it is not. But I do want us to
think about how dedicated we are to what we believe to be the Truths of
God. How concerned are we
that others receive these messages?
Husband/wife doctor team from California. Gave $60,000 a year to
a tithe collecting church. Learn the truth from Bible-Truths, wrote and
thanked me profusely, and I have NEVER heard from them again!! I know that many
cannot give, as they just don’t have the money.
Well then I am certainly not speaking to you. But seriously, it’s a shame that a work such as ours has to
operate on such a tiny budget. BIBLE-TRUTHS
BUSINESS CARDS Over the years I
have had maybe a dozen people ask if they could hand out business cards
or something similar advertising our bible-truths.com site. Not wanting
to have people design all kinds of cards that may or may not reflect the
quality of our message, I decided to print some cards and distribute
them below my cost to anyone wishing to hand them out.
That was several months ago.
To date 5 people have requested them, and only one who originally
asked. There just isn’t
much real interest, not even among our inner circle of Believers. But there are those
few who really are thankful for what they have learned and for what we
have accomplished through Bible-Truths.com.
I am proud to say that ALL of my medical expenses, lab tests,
many specialized supplements, consultations, etc. are being met by the
extreme generosity of a few loyal supporters. Without that help, I
probably wouldn’t be holding this Bible Conference today.
When I am gone, there is no one waiting in the wings to take my
place. Bible-truths will be locked down. It will be there for all to
read, but there will be no new material posted. Don’t make
excuses as to why you can’t obey the commandments of God. Luke
19:12—23…………… Luk 19:23
Wherefore then gave not you my money into the bank, that at my
coming I might have required mine own with usury? Some
of you might be thinking: “I
would be ashamed and embarrassed to give two mites (one penny) to
support Bible Truths. Oh
really? And just how
ashamed and embarrassed do you think you will be when Jesus asked why
you couldn’t have given at least as much as the poor widow?
One penny? One slice
of bread? Acts 3:6…Give
“such as you have.” It’s
all about attitude—don’t just be a “giver,” but be a “CHEERFUL
giver.” WHAT
ABOUT THIS THING OF WRATH ON GOD’S ELECT? What
about this idea that God is pouring out His ANGER, INDIGNATION, AND
WRATH upon me in the form of this cancer.
Does God really HATE His Own very Elect?
The Greek word “orge” translated “wrath” means to loathe,
abhor, which is HATEFUL & DETESTABLE (which means “to CURSE)! [1]
Rom. 1:18—“For the
wrath of God is revealed from heaven against ALL UNGODLINESS AND
UNRIGHTEOUSNESS OF MEN….” Note:
We are told that even God’s Elect are “ungodliness &
unrighteousness? Then
God’s wrath IS revealed against us, (God’s Elect) right?
Rest of verse: “…men,
who hold [Gk: hold back/suppress] the truth in unrighteousness.”
Does their ministry consist of “hold
back the TRUTH in unrighteousness?”
Apparently so, as they contend that God’s wrath is upon
them. And the Scriptures
tell us that “holding BACK the
truth in unrighteousness” is cause to receive the WRATH OF GOD
upon you. Is
Rom. 1:18 speaking of God’s “Elect?” Or is this speaking of those
who: “professing themselves to
be wise, the become fools/stupid” (Verse 22). [2]
Eph 5:6 Let no man
deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the
wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Eph
5:7 Be
not ye therefore partakers with them. If God’s Elect are still
“the children of
disobedience,” then it is impossible and foolish on Paul’s part
to admonish us to “BE NOT ye
therefore partakers with THEM.” See Eph. 2:3 and
Col. 3:6-8.
[3]
Rom 8:1 There is
therefore now no condemnation
to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh,
but after the Spirit. Wrath,
Anger & Indignation is severe CONDEMNATION! EXTREME condemnation! [4]
1Th 5:9 “For God
hath NOT appointed US to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our
Lord Jesus Christ,” And
just what do the stupid and foolish detractors say this mean?
That God has not appointed “us”—MEANING HUMANITY, the
entire world of sinners and unbelievers, to ETERNAL WRATH, but to
ultimate salvation. WHAT?
WHAT? Are they
crazy? I
stated in my Lake of Fire series that if I Tim. 2:4 had said:
“God our Saviour; who will [NOT]
have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the
truth,” would Christian
teachers and theologians not use that verse to prove that God does not
intend, and will NOT “have all
men saved.” But it
doesn’t say that. It says
that God “WILL have all men
saved.” So what then
does that mean? Well, to
those stupid and despisers of God’s Word, it also means that God will
NOT have all men saved? So
likewise, if I Thes. 5:9 had said:
“For God HAS
appointed us to wrath…” would these detractors use such a
Scripture to prove that God does appoint His Chosen Elect to Wrath.
Why yes of course they would.
But it doesn’t say that. It
says God has NOT APPOINTED US TO WRATH?
Why would anyone twist and distort such plain Scriptures like
that? Because they DEPISE
the Words of God, and they are “YET
CARNAL.” Now then, let’s see
from the Scriptures, not the blasphemous minds of men, just who the “US” is referring to in I Thes.
5:9—to us, THE WORLD OF WICKED AND UNREPENTANT SINNERS, or to us,
God’s Chosen Elect Few? READ
I Thes. 5:1-11………. And compare the following words:
“brethren, ye, you, yourselves, children of light, children of the
day, we, us who are of the day, us,, us, we, we, yourselves, ye, etc.,
with these words: they, them, they, others, they Where in those eleven
verses does the pronoun “US” include
the “they & them?” *PAY ATTENTION TO ALL
THE WORDS AND BELIEVE ALL THE WORDS! Now then:
When you read and study the Scriptures, APPLY THEM ALL TO
YOURSELF for either: doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in
righteousness So
as I taught in this lesson: If
you are not a cheerful giver, you are yet carnal. As
you read the Scriptures: If
you do not “do unto others as
you would have them do unto you,” you are yet carnal. If
you do not “turn the other
cheek,” you are yet carnal. If
you do not “humble yourself,”
you are yet carnal. If
you do not “…deem
one another superior to one’s self” (Phil. 2:4 CLV) You
are yet carnal. If
you do not “pray without
ceasing,” you are yet
carnal. If you do not “in
every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your
requests be made known unto God” you are yet carnal. I could go on for
hours and hours. EVERYTHING
in the Scriptures that admonish you personally, you must obey and
follow, or “ye are yet
carnal.” I chose just one
subject of “a cheerful
giver,” because this is one in which I can be pretty sure that
most of you “are yet carnal.” Now here is what I
DON’T WANT YOU TO DO: I
don’t want you to be afraid to look me in the eyes, because you have
not been a “cheerful giver.” I
don’t look down on any of you. I
look upon all of you as God’s called and hopefully in time, God’s
chosen ELECT. I love you all and mean the best to everyone, and it is a
privilege to be able to serve you!
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