|Are Bad and Sin the Same Thing?
What will happen to Hitler?
Do gay people go to Hell?
Preaching Christ for the Wrong Reasons
Is it ok to get a tattoo?
May God Bless You
Free Will - Are We Puppets?
Hell and Near Death Experiences
Holy Roman Empire
I am a Free Man!
Get your head out of the sand!
Is Jesus our Father?
What is your stance on Healing ?
You speak as Fool
Only a Fool would deny it
Rich Man and Lazarus
Every knee Should bow?
I am an atheist
Did Adam's Sin Cause Our Sin?
First, I would like to start out
saying that I am a 16 year old Pagan and a Witch. I have actually put a lot of thought
into my religion of choice, so please do not assume that I am some immature adolescent
wanting of attention, or trying to be like Marilyn Manson (who I am a fan of
actually), who by the way isn't a Satanist, or as far as I know a follower of any kind of
It would seem to me that you interchangeably use
the word 'bad' and 'sin' to mean the same thing when they do not. Example: Hitting your
sister is Bad, but not a Sin. Murdering someone is both bad AND a Sin, but not just one
alone. (I of course use the word sin as pertaining to your religious belief and the issue
at hand, not my religious belief.)
First, I think her friend may be thinking about the
scientific idea that Africa was the birthplace of humans, where they all originate from
and migrated to different places in the world.
So you are saying there is no benefit to living a good life, living by the word of God? If that is the case, I might as well go back to living the way I used to and have as much fun as I want and sleep with as many women as I can and whatever else I can do to make my life as fulfilling as possible. There is no reward for living by the scriptures, there is no such thing as sins against God.
You are admitting that you HATE GOD'S WAY OF LIFE.
To you it "isn't fun" and "isn't fulfilling." To you a life of sin is a "FULFILLING LIFE." You need a little spiritual adjustment between your ears.
I stated that there is coming "JUDGMENT" upon all who have not known or obeyed God. There is "chastisement" in that judgment. THEY WILL have a change of heart, (as you must as well) before they will be members of God's Family. God will PURGE THEM of their evil and wicked ways--it is not a pretty picture.
Hitler will not just waltz into the Family of God as if he has not nothing to be corrected about. People like Hitler will be SEVERELY CHASTISED for their evil ways. But, he WILL BE SAVED! Thank God for that.
You and I both would have been little "Hitler's" except for the grace of God. And if you don't believe that is true, then your understanding of your own carnal nature is small indeed.
Have no fear. The wicked will repent before they ever enter God's Family. Therefore, if we do not welcome them, then there is something seriously wrong with our own attitude, character, and spirituality.
Hope that helps yours understanding.
I think your letters and proof of all your answers to back them up are very impressive.
I get so confused with church and the bible and all the organized religions and do this or that or you are condemned to hell forever.
I have a question for you and I was reading that you are in your 60''s, so you may have some sort of generational outlook on this subject, no offense.
Do gay people go to hell?
I have many wonderful friends who are gay and I know what they do isn't my lifestyle, but I have met some wonderful people who are, and during a bad time in my life, I had some friends who were there for me and helped me through the bad times and they were so wonderful ... isn't that a Christian thing to do? Yes, they happened to be gay, but they were better friends to me than most of my "Christian" friends! I look at it as why in the HECK would someone CHOOSE to live a life of misery, depression and constant judgement!?
Thanks for your time!
Read the rest of the chapter as well.
They too, however, will all be saved after they pass through the
judgments of God (I Tim. 2:4). Whereas they rejected the TRUTH in favor of a LIE, as we
read in Romans, they will, in the judgment, come to a full REALIZATION AND EXPERIENCE OF
Dear Mr. Smith,
A charismatic church that I have attended highly recommends the teaching of many of the following: Benny Hinn, Casey Treat, Dr. Fred Price, Marilyn Hickie, Pat Robertson, Kenneth Copeland, Dr. Jack Van Impee, and Hal Lindsey. They also like Joyce Meyer, Oral Roberts, and Kenneth Hagen (among others).
I was curious if you had any comments regarding homosexuality. The church that I mentioned is very against homosexuals, openly condemns them in public, and will not allow them to attend the church. I have a difficult time understanding how a God of love can be represented by a church with so much hate. My brother-in-law struggles with his faith because he is a gay-Christian that daily faces oppression. Often people in the church are trying to "heal" or "convert" him and view him as a sinner even though he (in my opinion) acts very much like what I would hope more Christians to be like. I love and accept him for exactly who he is and I have a hard time believing that God does not love him and would not let him inherit the kingdom of God (I Cor. 6:9-10).
Any insight that you can provide will be greatly appreciated. I would like to understand more about this topic in general and welcome your thoughts.
I think your web site is doing a great service. I do not think it will impact much at all those with a hardened made up mind attitude, but for those like me, who for 20 years agonized over the prospect of so many people facing such an awful eternal doom it is like the most refreshing thing I have ever read.
One small question I am pondering. Since so much of Christendom believes (at least doctrinally I'm not sure how many believe it in their heart) in eternal torment, how does God do his work through these ministries so far in error?
I guess it is true when we come to Christ we receive a better salvation than those who come after death by sight, and not by faith, as we do avoid any of Gods corrections, but I wish some ministries would arise and do the works of God and preach the correct Gospel!
For example, I think Focus on the family does a lot of good in dealing with issues of this life (though still no hope for most after death) so what should are position be in regards to most of Christendom?
There have been many people who have come to Jesus Christ through
churches or ministries that are totally out of step with the Scriptures. Many of
these people write to me and tell me that although they found Christ in this or that
church or ministry, that they were unfulfilled until God showed them His real plan of
salvation for all. And that's one way in which God works through His own enemies of the
This chapter ends by informing us that, "Our God is also a CONSUMING FIRE." Paul tells us more about that spiritual consuming fire of God in I Cor. 3:14,
As Paul also said,
Keep the faith! God be with you!
I have been pondering the thought of getting a tattoo for about 5 years now and can't seem to get a straight. Are tattoo's allowed or not? Is it ok to get one or shouldn't you mark your body? I would appreciate some input on this topic.
I don't think the tattoo itself is as much of a question as is the REASON for the tattoo.
What is the tattoo you want, and why do you want it?
The pagans and heathens have always marked, cut, stretched, or in other manners disfigured their bodies in order to either please their gods or please themselves.
If you can think of a way that your tattoo will glorify God, then I would say, do it.
It brings me much satisfaction that I have finally found the correct path to many questions that I have sought for the last 40 years. You are a very talented and honest person. I can see that you are truly a man of God.
I have prayed and I feel secure that what I have always suspected and what you have revealed with your insights are in fact the truth.
May God bless you and your quest to search out more of Gods will not only for the public but for yourself as well.
Take care, John :o)
In the letter I sent on July 23 about freedom of choice you answered me with this reply "we are not the captains of our own destiny ... you will quit smoking when GOD DECIDES YOU WILL QUIT SMOKING and not before"
If this is true, then we ARE puppets with God pulling the strings. This means that God is in charge of all sin.
If this is so why did Jesus have to suffer for our sins if we really are not in control of sinning?
If it is true then all of those TV evangelists are preaching about hell because GOD HASN'T DECIDED TO STOP THEM YET.
All the misinterpretations of the bible that cause people to hate God's children because they are different WONT STOP UNTIL GOD DECIDES.
Ray is this what you mean is happening unknown to us? I just want to understand what you are saying. I really am not being arrogant, even though its sounds that way.
I am a Christian for sixty years. For the past two
years I have been researching past Christian history. It puts a new outlook on what I have
read. I have always blamed mankind for the Spanish inquisition, slavery, white man
slaughtering the American Indians, etc.
Consider the alternative of this fact. God IS NOT IN
CONTROL OF ANYTHING!!! Would that make you happier? Of course not. It's just that we
want to place God where WE THINK HE SHOULD FIT INTO OUR FRAME OF THINKING.
Charles Darwin had a personal purpose for trying to
find an explanation for the creation with a Creator. It was almost a "vendetta"
if you will. He despised the evil teachings of Christendom (as do I), believing what is
taught by Christendom really IS the religion of the Scriptures. BOTH his theories were
I was reading your opinion on Hell. I want you to read peoples near death experiences, you will find them all on the internet. People that actually saw Hell, demons and the like. I don't know if you have ever seen a demon possessed person, or actual ungodly unexplainable things, but there are demons, who will be cast into Hell.
People who do not choose God are cut off from God after death for their lack of unbelief. They do go to Hell. I know that you are very sure of yourself, but I would hope that as sure of your self as you felt when you were a teen, and as you got older and realized that at your youth you were not always right, be open minded and do more research, as I think you are steering people unknowingly the wrong way. To give people a false sense of peace is dangerous before the Lord.
People are not "cut off for a lack of
unbelief" but a lack of belief. But even then, God SAVES those who are lost and cut
off. Have you never read the dozens and dozens of Scriptures that tell us this?
I was wondering, with all changes that have taken place in Europe since the 1980's (changes that I never thought I'd live to see) it's difficult for me not to believe that Hal Lindsy (and Herbert Armstrong) were right about the E.C. leading to an end time revival of the Roman Empire (even though A.E. Knock saw "Mystery Babylon" as Apostate Judaism, and believed that the original Babylon would be rebuilt in Iraq). What do you think?
Also, do you have any kind of organized church? Do you perform baptisms, or celebrate the Lord's Supper? I ask these last two questions because I'm not sure I ever received a valid baptism, and I haven't partook of the Lord's Supper in years, Please reply.
Since EVERYTHING in the Book of Revelation is SYMBOLS, it is not likely that "Mystery Babylon" is literally the ancient city of Babylon. Just as all the dozens and dozens of other symbols in Revelation, Mystery Babylon symbolizes something other than literal Babylon.
I do not believe the Common Market countries are the
resurrected Roman Empire. Besides, are there not now THIRTEEN members? They
will have to start dropping members, not adding as we were told a few decades ago.
I just read your writing "Tithing is Unscriptural Under the New Covenant". I agree with what you have written. God blesses us not because we pay tithes, or give offerings or even support a missionary or two. He blesses us because we are His children and He is making us to be what He wants us to be.
I well remember the day when the Holy Spirit set me free from the legalist commands of the church I was attending at the time. In that church if I didn't pay tithes I couldn't partake of the services. I wasn't allowed to sing in the choir, be and usher, a door greater, or teach a Sunday School class.
I am free man today! I have found the true church of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. It is that Kingdom that is found within me. In this Church, which goes wherever I go, I am allowed to be a greeter, I can sing in it's choir, am allowed to usher to it's Saints and from time to time even allowed to teach from it's pulpit. Today when I go to the place where I work I will be in fellowship with Christ in His church. And the next day and the next after that and forever I am in His church. WOW, I am a free man and I want the world to know.
I appreciate so much your web site and the truths you bring forth. Preach the word L. Ray Smith, and never stop. I see that the site is approaching 200,000 unique visitors. I long for the day when 2,000,000 visitors have visited, and than 20,000,000 visitors, and I long for the day when by whatever means, all of Gods children everywhere have been set free and we all fellowship together in the true church of Jesus Christ which will never pass away.
After searching the internet for only a few minutes, I stumbled onto your web-site, and I read through some things that you wrote. Now, I don't necessarily agree or disagree with what your point of view is, and I'm not sure that that matters too much. My question is simply about the purpose of the web-site that you've created.
I may be missing it, but the point of your web-site seems to be an outlet of knowledge for you, but it unfortunately tears down Christians and their ministries, and I'm not quite sure how you can do that in the name of Christ.
I don't think that I would have any problem with it if it seemed that you were telling the truth in love, but that's not what it seems at all. What it seems like is that you disagree with some pastors, and you've tried to spur arguments.
I don't doubt that what you believe is very valid and you can back it up with scripture, but before I was in full time ministry, I was in a church of 3,000 people, which was split by two groups of people who had a lot of scripture for their actions. Both of their motives were wrong, so no matter scripture that they had, they were wrong.
I feel like you may be treading on the same ground. Listen, I believe that God still does miracles today. I believe that He heals people of sickness, that there is prophesy present, and that the gift of discerning of spirits is still on the earth as well. Now, that doesn't mean that I set up a web-site that bashes Presbyterians or Lutherans. You see, these things are not essential for salvation, and so there is no reason that we should fight, tooth and nail, with other Christians about non-essentials.
Just focus on the essentials, the non-negotiables. If a pastor gets up and says that we have to be good in order to get to heaven, then challenge him. But if a pastor gets up and says that Jesus was of a caucasian decent, just let it go ... let it go. Find some other way to apply your knowledge. Don't be like so many other Christians and try to kill the wounded.
In Christ's love,
Get your head out of the sand, Michael. Teaching the ENTIRE WORLD (thirty THOUSANDS MAJOR CITIES A WEEK), as Dr. Kennedy does, that God is going to torture in real fire most of humanity for all eternity and that the commission of Jesus Christ by His Father to be the Saviour of the whole world will never happen, but will utterly fall short is NOT something to be compared to some trivial aspect concerning Christ's race! Give me break!
Have you ever read Matt. 23? Did you approve of
Christ's condemnation of the Pharisee's hypocrisy? Did you know that if we are "in
Christ" then, "so are WE in the world" both as He was and as He is?
I would like to know your interpretation of the Bride of Christ? As of Revelation chapter 19 and 21.
Please explain Jesus going back unto the Father, does this mean Jesus goes back into what He was before He became flesh, before the foundation of the world? I see Him being not flesh anymore with a Glorified body being the Holy Spirit.
So since our Father is the Holy Ghost that means that Jesus is our Father????
Thank you for responding to these questions,
Try this: There is ONE GOD. Jesus Christ came OUT FROM God and is called the "Son OF God." The Holy Spirit comes OUT FROM God and is called the "spirit OF God." But God has bestowed on Jesus ALL THAT HE IS AND ALL THAT HE HAS, hence Jesus also has this SAME SPIRIT and therefore there is the "spirit OF Christ" which is the SAME spirit OF God. They BOTH possess the SAME SPIRIT. And as they possess the SAME SPIRIT, they are ONE!
God promises believers the obtaining of this same
spirit also. Hence WE TOO become ONE WITH CHRIST AND OUR FATHER! Did I loose you
yet? Furthermore, all of God's creatures will one day possess this same spirit and
then God will be "All in ALL" (I Cor. 15;28)!!!
I have been reading some of your writings on your web site and I was just wondering what your stance is on the subject of healing ? thanks if you have time to answer this,
I believe men like Benny Hinn to be charlatans. Many
who have come up on stage professing their healing were shortly thereafter to be in the
same state of disease or sickness as before.
I read your paper 'exposing those who contradict'. I always thought I have to live a righteous and perfect life to be saved, but now I can live how ever I please, go to sleep for a while (when I die) sleep till Jesus comes again, be resurrected from the dead just like He was, REPENT, and then be reigning on earth with Him for eternity afterwards.
I'm glad you made me realize and showed me proof through scriptures (gave me Gods ok) living a life of sin wont effect my eternity in anyway, maybe just my life here on earth somewhat (what goes around comes around) but that don't really matter to me because I get to live how I want to live now in exchange, so its worth it to me, a little punishment here and there ain't a big deal ... what's the worst that could happen to me, pain and suffering don't bother me ... death I guess, but that will be abolished too, and I'll be sleeping with no perception of my physical death so it don't matter.
I cant wait to start sinning again. I miss doing so many things I don't do no more (especially committing adultery), makes me love Jesus even more that He saved me from all my sins I committed and plan to commit, but I still don't understand why He had to save me or what He saved me from since there is no HELL or any type of eternal death to have ever worried about, what would have happened if Jesus never saved me?
Maybe you could explain if you got the time, or tell me which of your papers to read that will answer my question.
Thanks again Ray, God bless you.
P.S. I guess all those who told me, it don't matter how you live all you have to do is believe in Jesus. I guess they were right, but even then you made me realize that even if I didn't know or ever believe in Jesus or God the Father, it still wouldn't have effected my eternity in any way. Thank you.
There is coming a time of severe judgment upon sinning mankind. It will not be a walk in the park for any of them. God will purge them all with the fires of His Spirit. But then, all mankind will be saved. This occurs at the white throne judgment, not when Christ returns to reign on the earth.
And, no you will NOT reign with Christ if you purposefully go back into sin. It is the "overcomer" who will reign with Christ.
Of course your foolishness speaks volumes regarding your motives in following God. You don't believe that living righteously is the right way, the best way, or the ONLY WAY to live in the first place. I have not taught any such foolishness as you are proposing.
And I firmly believe that it is people with your attitude that will be judged the most severely. YOU MOCK GOD AND YOU MOCK HIS WORD! Your own words condemn you. You need to repent of your rotten attitude.
Maybe you need to read "EXPOSING THOSE WHO
CONTRADICT" again, but this time look up all the Scriptural references I give.
... I dare never to use my Kings words for such. You're in my prayers Ray, and all those who's minds you have corrupted with the truth (as the evil one does).
You are not disapproving my words, but God's.
You do not approve of what God plainly says He will do.
You do not approve of God saving all humanity because then you don't feel so SPECIAL anymore.
You have no love for humanity. Most of humanity has NEVER heard of Jesus Christ. God DIED for all humanity and His supreme sacrifice will NOT be in vain as most of Christendom teaches.
God WILL PERFORM ALL of His desires and all that He has
spoken. Only a fool would have the audacity to deny it.
Mr. Smith - This is not a parable, Jesus said "there was a certain rich man..." If there was not a certain rich man then Jesus was lying, but God cannot lie so, there was a certain rich man and this is an actual account and not a parable. Unless you don't believe that Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh then what you believe doesn't matter. John 8:24
[another email on same subject]
Mr. Smith - I have nearly finished reading your letters to James Kennedy and Dr. Hagee. I am amazed at your teaching, your presentation, your command of the scriptures. I am a believer, but have long struggled with the traditional theology of heaven and hell, and also know non-believers that turned their back on Christianity because of this doctrine (among other things, I'm sure). Anyway, I agree with you on many points and intend to study this very important issue out thoroughly myself. Thank you.
By the way, are you familiar with Bollinger's and Otis Zellers' (Sellers?) view on Luke 16 - that the story of the Rich Man and Lazarus is not a parable at all but rather another literary device altogether, that being a satire? The gist is that the Lord took concepts and teachings of the Pharisees and satirically threw them back in their faces to expose them. Certainly not to be taken literally. I read your analysis as you presented to Dr. Hagee, but just wondered if you were familiar with this viewpoint and what your thoughts were on that.
God bless you, Mr. Smith. I look forward to reading your other articles on the internet. Thanks again.
These five parable all revolved around the Pharisees
which were "fond of MONEY."
Christ and the Scriptures would both be liars if Luke
16 is NOT a parable. And parables are NEVER literally true, so all that is taught in
Christendom regarding this parable is heresy on the highest level.
You know where in the bible does it say that "Every knee WILL bow" but it does say in Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
The bible says that every one SHOULD confess, that WILL. But there is coming a day when every knee WILL bow, some in heaven, and some in Hell (under the earth), but in hell it will be to late!
I do believe the scriptures of God, in fact I believe everyone of them. Just look at them from a wrong perspective, for example when you said "Paul plainly tells us that no man can call Jesus "LORD" EXCEPT BY THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD, so everyone will eventually have the spirit of God" that is not the meaning of that verse.
Paul is saying that the Holy spirit brings us unto excepting Christ. The Holy Spirit has to been Convicting a Sinner before he can except Jesus. Its the Holy Spirit that seals us and by the holy spirit we can call Jesus "LORD". Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. I did not deny the Scriptures, but by the authority of the bible I deny your Interpretation
You are fighting the Word of God to uphold your pagan
tradition of eternal torment.
Did you notice that God says, "AS I LIVE SAITH the Lord."? God has SAID IT!!! Where did He SAY it? In Isaiah 45:23.
Now if you think the word "should" back in Phil. 2:11 is too weak a word to convey the idea that it really WILL HAPPEN, then try these words on for size:
This is were Paul got that quotation from in Phil.
In fact, back in verse ten God strongly affirms that,
People blaspheme when they try to turn the very WILL of God into a 'weak unattainable wish'! You will give account for the very words in this e-mail, one day. I would be very carefully about insinuating that God's will will never be accomplished!
Don't you be lecturing me about misusing the Word of
God! You are out of your league. You say that you believe every word of God, you do not.
It is YOU who are refusing to believe "WHAT IS WRITTEN!"
We read in in Phil. 2:10-11 and Rom. 14:11, and Isaiah 45:23 that EVERYONE WILL BOW AND CONFESS GOD and I Cor. 12:3 says
This is not rocket science to believe these verses, but
the carnal mind will fight these verses all day long! They are properly translated and
they are simple to understand. One really has to do a hatchet job on these Words of God to
get to to say something other than way they say.
My name is Tim and I am an atheist. I came across your site, quite by accident; however, I wanted to drop you a line and say that I was impressed. You see, the whole reason that I stopped believing in the biggest mass-murderer in history, was because I did not and still do not believe that he/she/it exists, simply based on the astonishing lack of evidence.
The point is, I like very much what you are doing. It almost makes Christianity palatable, because you are reading the bible (which is certainly a book containing errors and contradictions large enough to drive a truck through) and making as much sense of it as is humanly possible.
I like the fact that you think tithing is tantamount to extortion in the name of God, is refreshing. The idea that people will be burning FOREVER is insane; the ramblings of a sick and twisted person. Not that I'm suggesting the people that preach such things are sick; they have chosen to believe and force their lies on everyone whom will listen.
In closing, keep up the great work.
P.S. I'm sure that if this is posted, many people will say that since I am an atheist, that it somehow proves that you are wrong because I tend to agree with you.
It is not my intention to cause you anymore negative responses than you are already receiving. I only wanted to thank you.
I have been reading your site for over a year. On another site that doesn't believe in eternal torment, was a committed born again Christian but now is a deist. He doesn't believe in Jesus anymore and is sharing that the word of God is not a revelation from God. This disturbs me. On my search for truth it also brings many doubts about a lot of things. I know that Jesus is real and I cant bring myself to let go of my belief in him but I don't understand how so many Christians are turning to atheist, deist, and everything else. I trust your wisdom and ask if you could comment on this.
One of the most important concepts in Christianity is original sin, or the belief that all mankind has inherited a sinful nature brought about by the acts of Adam and Eve.
Rom. 5:12 "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"
Rom. 5:19 "For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners,..."
1Cor. 15:22 "For as in Adam all die, ..."
Original sin makes about as much sense as if I were sitting at home one evening and the following occurred: The police came to my door and stated I was under arrest because my father in Europe just shot and killed someone. I responded by asking what that had to do with me and they said, "He's your father, isn't he?"
How do you deal with all the contradictions in the bible? Is there an article on your site that deals with this?
Thank you and God Bless You,
Now then, WHERE does that verse say that Adam's "sin was passed on to all in the world?" Was "sin" passed on? NO! "DEATH" was passed on.
Are we condemned because of "ADAM'S SIN?"
NO! "...for that ALL have sinned." All have sinned
their OWN individual sins, they are not condemned because of Adam's sin, but they did
receive "death" from Adam in that "mortality" WAS passed on to the
whole human race, because Adam did NOT partake of the "TREE OF LIFE," but rather
sinned which brought the penalty God promised of "death."
Rom. 5:19 "For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners..."
They were made sinners by VIRTUE OF THE FACT THAT THEY RECEIVED ADAM'S MORTALITY [DEATH] NOT HIS SIN. We sin because we are mortal [dying]. We have NO SPIRITUAL STRENGTH to combat our carnal, sinning, DYING, FLESH. Hence all sin because THEY ARE MORTAL. Adam sinned because HE WAS MORTAL. "It is appointed unto ALL men once to die"
But there are TWO DEATHS -- spiritual and physical. Jesus Christ said: "Let the DEAD bury the DEAD." Two kinds of "dead" in ONE VERSE. The SPIRITUALLY DEAD, who bury the PHYSICALLY DEAD!
Hope that helps your understanding a little better. One
more point: Any human being from any generation in the history of the human race, if put
in the garden under the same conditions as Adam, would have ALSO SINNED THE SAME WAY. Adam
sinned not because he could have chosen NOT TO SIN, but because he was made too
spiritually weak to avoid or conquer sin. God MADE Adam subject to VANITY and CORRUPTION
(and "not willingly"). See Romans 8:18-23).