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bambam:
Hello, my name is Beth.  I have been gone for a while, but I used to come here.  I believe the truth is here.  I do not understand it all, nor can I yet explain it freely and openly to others.  But I know in my spirit, that God really does love everyone, and He is not going to burn them alive forever.  That is what brings me back.  

It's hard to leave that belief, simply because of the number of people who subscribe to it.  I know I will be labeled if anyone finds out what I REALLY think.  The hard thing is, I love the people who will be worried and concerned that I have begun to follow false teaching.  HOw do you do it?  Really?  It's so hard-I feel so pressed right now.  My dear husband is entrenched as an assistant pastor at our church, and I am in a position of "leadership" along side him, though I do not want to be.  Not because I do not love him, but because of my heart, and what I have learned.  He is a good man, and he loves me.  I am submitted to him, but I so badly feel broken by all this.  I do not want to be bitter, or angry, but patient.  

This has been a slow and emotional process for me.  It all started about two years ago and I have been learning and studying and reading ever since.  I have to be honest and say that if my husband knew I was on here he would be very hurt.  He told me not to come to this site anymore last year and we even got rid of the internet.  Now that I have it back, I have tried to stay away for him but I have found it difficult.  I really want and need to be completely honest with him. I do not want to hide anything from him.  

Pray for me as I really seek the right way and time to tell him my heart.  It will most certainly NOT be easy.  I dread it!!  I do not want our family to be divided.  But I also cannot justify going behind his back to come here.  Thank you all.

It's SO good to be back!!

Beth

Marlene:
Beth, I will pray for you. Just, a couple weeks ago I took my Mother to see my Brother. He asked me if I was going to church. I told him no and he got so mad he threw me out of his house. My Mother is 88 . She was so upset. But, she has never believe in Hell or the Trinity or Rapture. My Father was ill and disabled at age 48. She always had to work to help take care of us. She was such a moral woman. So, busy and never had much time for herself.

I use to be a Lutheran when I was a young girl. After, marriage God drew me right in my apartment. That was some 30 years ago. My Husband, who is such a sweet heart believed from our home also. We did begin to attend church and went to the same one most of our married life. Until about 3 years ago. I became ill had some time away. Again, I became close to God one on one. Its a long story what all took place in my life. But, my Mother and Husband are ok with not going to church. My husband family all go. I am pretty sure they think I have lost my mind.

I feel bad since my Mother is getting old that my Brother acted like that. He himself is not well. But, he blamed me and said, I started stuff with him. Which, was not true. He was preaching and bragging about all he knows. Then he asked me if we were going to church. All I said is no. He told me to get out so we all left without a word.

Matt. Chapter  10
Verse 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to se nd peace, but a sword.
Verse 35 For I am come to set a man at v ariance against his father, and the daughter against her mother,  and the daughter-in law against her mother in law
verse 36 And a man's foes  shall be they of his own houselhold.

I don't know about you, but I was never presecuted for my believe while in Babylon's churches. But, since I have left I get it from some well meaning freinds family and church people.

Only, you can decide what to do. It is a hard thing. I will keep you in my prayers cause it is a hard thing to do. God gave me a good cause to make me leave. Yes, we love those people cause they are like we once were. Blind
Glad you are back.  I feel for you. 

In His Love,
Marlene

aqrinc:

Hi Beth,

Good to see GOD Has brought you back, kicking and screaming, as we all have done in the past. There are a lot of Scripture to address your actions with an unbelieving or blinded spouse. The Scriptures below are to lay the basis on which GOD And Our Lord Jesus Christ will have you in this age.

There are other Scriptures to show just how you can do this and still be a Loving and Loyal Spouse. But these are The Words Of Jesus Christ Himself, to lay the Foundation on which we all must build.

Please read and understand this first, i would be happy to pass my own experiences to you, and it is not easy at all. My Wife thinks i am totally deceived, Ray is a cult Leader, Hagee is a Good Man and one to emulate. It is a vicious war every minute of every day, but one that i will gladly fight so that by any means GOD May still use me to help Her to see and Believe.

I do not normally write long missives, but go to The Scriptures to make the case for why i have this Love for my fellow humans, every one of you.

Mat 10: 32-42 (MKJV)
32  Then everyone who shall confess Me before men, I will confess him before My Father who is in Heaven.
33  But whoever shall deny Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in Heaven.
34  Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth. I did not come to send peace, but a sword.
35  For I have come to set a man against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.
36  And a man's foes shall be those of his own household.
37  He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
38  And he who does not take up his cross and follow Me is not worthy of Me.
39  He who finds his life shall lose it. And he who loses his life for My sake shall find it.
40  He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.
41  He who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward. And he who receives a just one in the name of a just one will receive a just one's reward.
42  And whoever shall give to one of these little ones a cup of cold water to drink, only in the name of a disciple, truly I say to you, He shall in no way lose his reward.

george :).

bambam:
Thank you for the scripture.  I noticed something missing in this passage-spouses.  It addresses siblings and parents-are spouses just an understood here.  I am just trying to understand how to fulfill my role as wife.  Am I doing wrong if I go against my husband.  I want to do the right thing.  But I also know that I have not been honest with him because I know how much trouble it will cause!  He is so set in his beliefs as I was once upon a time.  Oh this is so hard.  Anyways, thanks for the scripture. 

Beth :)   

Marlene:
I would say it would include Spouses. It can come from your own household. Thats, the hard part. I can see how hard for you it is. Being, your husband is an assistant pastor. My Husband, is not invovled with that as his work. He was never like I use to be about church. In my opinion he lived more like Christ then I ever was able. Now, I am able because I know only Christ can do it in me. I got sick of trying it on my own. Plus, we were pretty presecuted from our church of many years. We got a new preacher that we had for about 6 years of our last years spent in church. Watching some of his actions and lies and things pretty much done it up for us.

We turned the other cheek with him alot, until we could take no more of his lies and how he treated old and new people. We lost alot of members who had been there for years.

I will keep you in my prayers.

In His Love,
Marlene

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