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Daniel:
Hey, does not "come up hither" mean the same as ascend? Just curious because I don't know.
Then again doesnt ascend mean to come down?
Romans 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above)
He was the only one who came out from God, ever try to capture the mind spin on this? Of Him who ascended be it FIRST that he descended into the lower parts of the earth.
I'm having a brain fart
:lol:
Daniel
Becky:
yea if heaven isnt a physical place , what the heck is going on in these verses.... i havn't figured them out yet!
chrissiela:
Rom 10:5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
Rom 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Rom 10:7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;[/list:u]
We need NOT ascend OR descend.... for the kingdom is WITHIN... He is NIGH, even in thy mouth and in thy heart.
Chrissie
mercie:
--- Quote from: chrissiela ---
We need NOT ascend OR descend.... for the kingdom is WITHIN... He is NIGH, even in thy mouth and in thy heart.
Chrissie
--- End quote ---
Sound word Chrissie.
Daniel:
Amen Chrissie, it speaks of "the wisdom" the descendth from above after the spiritual fruit it bears. Wouldn't that be Christ (the tree of life) in us? If the "Fruit" of the righteous, IS a tree of life and we cannot bear fruit of "ourselves" it seems so. None is good but God and God is love. The good fruit comes from abiding in Christ Him abiding in us that we bear fruit unto God. If a tree is "known by its fruit" then it is also known by its children, the children of the Kingdom. Would have to be the "manifestation of the Sons of God". Truth in us and us walking in the truth is walking in love. He gave us power "to become" and as He is so would we be "in the world".
Its more then geography here, these are spiritual words signified expressing spiritual truths. Thats how I'm seeing it right now.
Peace
Daniel
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