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bible man

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the elect
« on: May 31, 2009, 10:32:58 AM »

im looking for more info on what happens to the "unsaved"  while the elect enters The Kingdom Of God?
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Deborah-Leigh

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Re: the elect
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2009, 11:44:01 AM »


......the wicked who will be raised as tares to be burned in the Lake of Fire.http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,7474.0.html

That means that the "unsaved" will be Judged, corrected, edified and they shall repent of their wicked ways and be converted, saved and healed of their wickedness by ~Christ and His Elect when His Judgements shall be in the earth.

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Kat

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Re: the elect
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2009, 12:05:27 PM »

 
Those not "saved" in the first resurrection, will go to the White Throne Judgment which is the second resurrection.

Rev 20:11  Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them.
v. 12  And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.
v. 13  The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
v. 14  Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
v. 15  And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

Here are a couple of emails on this subject.

http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1883.0.html --------

Man is mortal, so all manknd will and must die eventually. Even those "who are alive and remain" unto the coming of the Lord will be changed. In that sense, their old flesh body dies.

But we must also spiritually die to ourselves WHILE WE ARE STILL ALIVE.  This only happens to those who are "baptized in Christ," not baptized into water. Those who are "crucified with Christ."  Those who are "begotten anew from above." Those who are made "a new creature," in the "Image of God's Son," etc. In other words only God's chosen elect few will experience these things in this life and be resurrection to immortality with a spiritual body in the first resurrection.
The rest of humanity which has died once PHYSICALLY,  will be resurrected in the second resurrection in which they too will have to spiritually die to their old carnal man and be made righteous (Isa. 26:9).

God be with you,

Ray  


http://bible-truths.com/email6.htm -----------------------------------

The Church will tell you that these will be tortured in hell after death, for all eternity. Just how one tortures a DEAD PERSON is a little hard to understand, seeing that the Scriptures make it quite clear that when a persons dies, HE IS DEAD and has no thoughts or consciousness (See Psalm 146:4 and I Cor. 15:12-57). The Greek word "hades" often translated "hell" in many English bibles, actually means, "the unseen or imperceptible." If one goes to a place of NO PERCEPTION (hades) at death, how pray tell could there be "perception" (thoughts, feelings, life) in a place of NO PERCEPTION?

All people who die are DEAD until resurrection. The chosen elect of God are joined with Him at resurrection. The wicked and/or unbelievers are judged at resurrection. Judgment SETS THINGS RIGHT. Contrary to all the lies of Christendom, here is what actually and Scripturally happens when the unbelievers of this life are resurrected back to life:  

"...For when Thy [that's God's] JUDGMENTS are in the earth, the inhabitants of the WORLD [all of them] WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS" (Isaiah 26:9).

That should be comforting to every person who reads this verse. To be sure the wicked will be chastised just as a father chastises his children to correct them and show them the right way to go. However, they "WILL [not maybe] LEARN righteousness."
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mercy, peace and love
Kat

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daywalker

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Re: the elect
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2009, 02:36:28 AM »

im looking for more info on what happens to the "unsaved"  while the elect enters The Kingdom Of God?

Have you read Ray's material yet? He answers this question and many more in great detail, and provides hundreds of Scriptures.

Daywalker.  8)
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indianabob

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Re: the elect
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2009, 07:31:50 PM »

Bible man,

Most of the questions that you have presented are answered in the very large collection of articles that are found on the B T web site.  Please read those from cover to cover to gain a deeper knowledge of the subject matter.

Then please realize that this will take some time to sink into your brain.

No one and I do mean no one, gets it the first time through.

You may have studied these issues prior to finding B T and if so you may have a head start that will find you noticing that you already agree with some of what B T presents on the web.  If that is true, then good.  However, this is new to every brainwashed member of standard Christendom and it will take a few months or a couple of years to become clear.  God wants us to strive for knowledge with his help.  God does not want us to come to an understanding of His will easily.  If it is worth learning it is worth striving for.

Regards, Indiana Bob
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Ninny

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Re: the elect
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2009, 07:42:30 PM »

Well said, IBob! :D
It is very true!
Kathy :D
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