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O those crazy Christians.
hillsbororiver:
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--- Quote from: love_magnified ---It just reminds me of how happy I am that Christ is the only one who can straighten out the confusion and silliness, and he will.
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Yes straighten HE will.
Jos 6:5 And it shall come to pass, that when they make a long [blast] with the ram's horn, [and] when ye hear the sound of the trumpet, all the people shall shout with a great shout; and the wall of the city shall fall down flat, and the people shall ascend up every man straight before him
But be careful not to spiritualize away the scripture LM , heresy maybe become linked with it. :oops:
Peace.
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Mercie, is this really necessary?
Joe
mercie:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver ---
--- Quote from: mercie ---
--- Quote from: love_magnified ---It just reminds me of how happy I am that Christ is the only one who can straighten out the confusion and silliness, and he will.
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Yes straighten HE will.
Jos 6:5 And it shall come to pass, that when they make a long [blast] with the ram's horn, [and] when ye hear the sound of the trumpet, all the people shall shout with a great shout; and the wall of the city shall fall down flat, and the people shall ascend up every man straight before him
But be careful not to spiritualize away the scripture LM , heresy maybe become linked with it. :oops:
Peace.
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Mercie, is this really necessary?
Joe
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joe
May I ask is this?
The resurrection is a PHYSICAL THING that happens. I fear of heresy coming into our flock as people continuously try to spiritualize everything. Some people here seem closer and closer to doing that and even destroying the significance of the resurrection.
hillsbororiver:
Mercie, what do you see the Lord saying here?
Luk 8:15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.
Every one of us at times need to remember this admonition;
Phi 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
I don't think any of us want to be perceived as or succumb to this;
1Ti 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings.
Most of us are here to increase our understanding of His Word and its purpose in our lives, if we disagree that is to be expected, we can learn from everyone, even if the only lesson is patience;
We can ignore blatently provocative questions and not fall into traps, but when questions or statements are made innocently, with the desire for wisdom evident we should consider this;
2Ti 2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do engender strifes.
2Ti 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
It really is a comforting thought when we believe and live the following;
1Pe 4:8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
Mercie, when our Lord allowed Himself to be crucified for our sins, was He physically doing a spiritual deed? Or was it only spiritual.
Yes, we are to compare spiritual with spiritual, but aren't these (spiritual) lessons, this wisdom manifested in our physical bodies during our time here?
James: Chapter 2 speaks to the critical relationship between faith (spiritual) and works (physical).
For the record I also believe that the 1st resurrection is a future event with the graves of the saints to be emptied, as was His tomb.
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible and we shall be changed.
Phi 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
1Jo 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
Joe
mercie:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver ---Mercie, what do you see the Lord saying here?
Luk 8:15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.
Every one of us at times need to remember this admonition;
Phi 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
I don't think any of us want to be perceived as or succumb to this;
1Ti 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings.
Most of us are here to increase our understanding of His Word and its purpose in our lives, if we disagree that is to be expected, we can learn from everyone, even if the only lesson is patience;
We can ignore blatently provocative questions and not fall into traps, but when questions or statements are made innocently, with the desire for wisdom evident we should consider this;
2Ti 2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do engender strifes.
2Ti 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
It really is a comforting thought when we believe and live the following;
1Pe 4:8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
Mercie, when our Lord allowed Himself to be crucified for our sins, was He physically doing a spiritual deed? Or was it only spiritual.
Yes, we are to compare spiritual with spiritual, but aren't these (spiritual) lessons, this wisdom manifested in our physical bodies during our time here?
James: Chapter 2 speaks to the critical relationship between faith (spiritual) and works (physical).
For the record I also believe that the 1st resurrection is a future event with the graves of the saints to be emptied, as was His tomb.
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible and we shall be changed.
Phi 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
1Jo 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
Joe
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patience the ablity to suffer LONG , Amen, may I ask why was not the same post Given to The person who posted this on Heresy?
dont you think that he maybe quick to have Judged?
such subtlties are not needed Joe but are let through but other subtlties are some what taken to task .
Maybe you missed my posting while sharing with Bobby., ill happilly Get you the Link
Mercie, when our Lord allowed Himself to be crucified for our sins, was He physically doing a spiritual deed? Or was it only spiritual.
Why yes Joe this was a DOING, as when The Father through Christ created all that is.
Why of Course it I who lacks the patience here Joe , my apologies to all.
Im aware of whats taught here Joe and can see what you talk of, best leave it at that im here to share on common Ground.
Joe is this a Literal Truth , just one in the New Testemant.
Eating Real Flesh is really unhealthy, dont you think.
Jam 5:3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.
With Respect to Ray and Mike , they dont cover everything in Scripture , and when people come here and exceed the Bounds of those teachings, maybe some here can not revert Back to The teachings which are Not yet there, but does that no less make what others say not True.?
Is this being disrespectful to Ray and Mike for sharing what we see because they have yet to write an article on it.
I dare not question or Rock the Boat Joe . I best Bow dow down and Apologise to all those with Greater spiritual Understanding and for me Being a Heritic for Spirtualizing the Scriptues in the manner which I do.
Truly Joe Blessed are the eyes which see.
Peace
hillsbororiver:
Mercie,
I hope all who read my post can see something worthwhile in it, this was not intended to make you feel as if you can't share your insights as well or as much as anyone else.
My point is everyone who shares an opinion or makes a statement should have the scripture to back it up and the patience to allow our Sisters and Brothers the time to absorb it, there will be times when someone will throw a kneejerk comment or remark right back at the poster, longsuffering anyone?
There have even been times when 2 or more truths will reveal themselves during the course of someone trying to make a single point. It is threads like this that can make the time here very beneficial very edifying.
Mercie, I can assure you that no one here requires anybody to bow down to anyone but the Lord, and I can only speak for myself as far as "greater spiritual understanding" goes, my dark glass is only a few shades above opaque, I really do believe I can learn from anyone drawing a breath.
I hope you see where I come coming from and I appreciate your response.
Thanks,
Joe
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