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Marky Mark:
Aionios means pertaining to an age,not being alive in the Spirit.


Peace...Mark

TheRysta:
Yes, but John defines 'eternal (aionios) life' as the KNOWLEDGE of Jesus Christ.

The righteous know Jesus Christ.

Therefore at judgement day they would not be 'going into' eternal life, they would already be in it and it would not be used in the same context as 'eternal punishment'.

Matthew might have been using a different definition.

Someone please tell me if I'm making a mountain out of a molehill. This just bothers me personally, but I guess there's every possibility that it could make sense as it is.

Ninny:
Wow! I keep marveling at you my young friend! Such deep questions from such a young spirit!! You Go Boy!!!
Love,
Kathy ;)

Marky Mark:

--- Quote from: TheRysta on June 18, 2009, 01:49:39 PM ---Yes, but John defines 'eternal (aionios) life' as the KNOWLEDGE of Jesus Christ.

The righteous know Jesus Christ.

Therefore at judgement day they would not be 'going into' eternal life, they would already be in it and it would not be used in the same context as 'eternal punishment'.

Matthew might have been using a different definition.

Someone please tell me if I'm making a mountain out of a molehill. This just bothers me personally, but I guess there's every possibility that it could make sense as it is.

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Rysta,email to Ray,hope it helps.

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4445.0.html


--- Quote ---Dear Jimmy:  It just amazes me how utterly short-sighted Biblical scholars and theologians can be when they are locked into their pagan traditions.  Jesus had a special REWARD/AWARD for all His followers. What was it? Heaven? NO. Eternal life? NO. All humanity will be given immortality which is in effect eternal, everlasting life. So what is so special that only the CHOSEN FEW will receive it? It is ruling and reigning and judging with Jesus Christ!  This reign is "eonian" or "age-lasting." It is decidedly NOT "eternal," as we are plainly told that it will END (I Cor. 15:25). Jesus rules only "UNTIL" He puts all enemies under His feet, at which time He hands over the reign of the Kingdom to His God and Father (Verses 27-28). All enemies will learn RIGHTEOUSNESS and ultimately be saved (Isa. 26:9, I Tim. 2:4, I Tim. 4:10, Phil. 2:9-11, Eph. 1:10, etc., etc., etc).
 
And so, those who do not quality to rule, reign, and judge with Christ, will themselves BE JUDGED. And judgment means to set things right. Hence "the [wicked] shall go away into everlasting [Gk: 'eonian'] punishment [Gk: 'chastisement']: but the righteous [the chosen Elect Few[ into life eternal [Gk: 'eonian' also]"  (Matt. 25:46). Aionios is the adjective form of the noun aion. Aion means an "age."  Aionios means that which pertains to an age. Eternus is a Latin word that surprisingly traces it etymology to the Greek word aion. Eternus never, ever meant "endless time" until hundreds of years after the Bible was completed and the Catholic Church decided that aions would be now taught to be "ENDLESS ages." As aion and aionios never meant endless, the word endless had to be affixed to aion and aionos in order to ever give it such a false and erroneous meaning.
 
The root of "kolasis" means "cutting off," as in pruning a tree. One prunes a tree to make it PRODUCE MORE FRUIT, not to kill it!  The wicked are chastised (judged) for the period of Christ's reign and the Saints reign for the period of Christ's reign. Both periods are the same length--until their purpose has been accomplished. Simple, huh? And Scriptural as well. God will torture no one for all eternity. That is blasphemously insane!!
God be with you,
Ray
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Peace...Mark

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