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Sandyk:
Hey Everyone,

Do not understand these verses.  This is very confusing to me.  I know the cities were destroyed is this why Lot's daughters bored his children.  If they were the only ones on the mountain how did he not know these were his children being born?  Who are the Moabites and Ammons to this day? 



Gen. 19;30  Then Lot went up out of Zoar and dwelt in the mountains, and his two daughters were with him, for he was afraid to dwell in Zoar.  And he and his two daughters dwelt in a cave.

Gen. 19;31  Now the firstborn said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is no man on the earth "to come in to us as is the custom of all the earth.

Gen. 19;32  "Come let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve the lineage of our father."

Gen. 19;33  So they made their father drink wine that night.  And the firstborn went in and lay with her father, and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose.

Gen. 19;34  It happened on the next day that the firstborn said to the younger, "Indeed I lay with my father last night; let us make him drink wine tonight also, and you go in and lie with him, that we may preserve the lineage of our father."

Gen. 19;35  Then they made their father drink wine that night also.  And the younger arose and lay wih him, and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose.

Gen. 19;36  Thus both the daughters of Lot were with child by their father.

Gen. 19;37  The firstborn bore a son and called his anme Moab, he is the father of the Moabites to this day.

Gen. 19;38  And the younger, she also bore a son and called his name Benammi; he is the father of the people of Ammon to this day. 



It just does not seem right that a father and daughter have sex and bore children together.  To be quite honest I don't like reading it and don't understand why God would let this be the case.  The old testaments are very confusing to me and I would rather read the New Testament.   ???  ???

I have hesitated to post this but it has been on my mind for sometime.   :-[




Ninny:
Reading that just kind of makes you want to throw up, huh Sandy? Not everything in the Old Testament is pretty!! :P

Kathy ;)

Sandyk:
Thanks Kathy,

I get really hung up on verses like these.  Nice to know I am not the only one. 

hillsbororiver:
Hi Sandy & Kathy,

From what I have read in regard to the Moabites & Ammons they would be in present day Jordan.

Lot was the only man to be deemed "righteous" in Sodom and/or Gomorrah, his two daughters (women are often symbols of the church), defiled their "righteous" father resulting in the births of peoples who would be antagonistic toward Israel (symbol of the chosen/elect).

Haven't the churches defiled Him by defiling His Word? Are they not antagonistic toward those who seek His Truth? 

But out of this unholy union and the resulting enemies of Israel came another "woman" her name was Ruth (perhaps a symbol of the true church).

This is only food for thought, we must always keep in mind that God does use evil for ultimate good, it may appear to us as strange, even bizarre but some day when we receive our full inheritence we will understand why it had to be this way.

Peace,

Joe     

Ninny:
Thank you Joe! I knew there was a spiritual meaning as well..  :D
Kathy :)

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