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Genesis 19 vs 30-38
Sandyk:
Joe,
Thank you so much. As Kathy said in previous reply about knowing, there most be a spiritual message as well. This is what I was searching for. Is this because I am reading in the flesh and not in spirit? I wish I had posted this earlier. This is very humbling for me. I am such a babe. God has so much for mean to learn.
I really can't tell you how much I appreciate you posting that reply, it has been an eye opener. :o
hillsbororiver:
Hi again Sandy and Kathy,
First off I want to say you are both very welcome and that I am glad that my observation was of some help. I am surely not saying that my answer is the definitive answer to this as we know the scriptures speak on many levels.
One very important thing I have learned here is to search for Christ (also the elect to a lesser degree) in all scriptures as they all do testify of Him, His plan and His purpose for all creation.
Peace,
Joe
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on June 16, 2009, 03:14:11 PM ---Hi again Sandy and Kathy,
First off I want to say you are both very welcome and that I am glad that my observation was of some help. I am surely not saying that my answer is the definitive answer to this as we know the scriptures speak on many levels.
One very important thing I have learned here is to search for Christ (also the elect to a lesser degree) in all scriptures as they all do testify of Him, His plan and His purpose for all creation.
Peace,
Joe
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Great point Joe...and the scriptures agree:
Luke 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he [Jesus] expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luke 24:44-45 ...He [Jesus] said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Marques
Amrhrasach:
--- Quote from: mharrell08 on June 16, 2009, 03:42:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on June 16, 2009, 03:14:11 PM ---Hi again Sandy and Kathy,
First off I want to say you are both very welcome and that I am glad that my observation was of some help. I am surely not saying that my answer is the definitive answer to this as we know the scriptures speak on many levels.
One very important thing I have learned here is to search for Christ (also the elect to a lesser degree) in all scriptures as they all do testify of Him, His plan and His purpose for all creation.
Peace,
Joe
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Great point Joe...and the scriptures agree:
Luke 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he [Jesus] expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luke 24:44-45 ...He [Jesus] said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Marques
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Thank you Marques. I've been looking for that verse, John 5:39. I've wondered what it means, this part:
"for in them ye think ye have eternal life"
Does this point back to the pharisee's and scribes, in that, they were loyal to the scripture but not to Christ and therefore he's saying ONLY IN ME is eternal life and that the scriptures can only testify of him?
Gary
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Horseman on June 16, 2009, 03:56:43 PM ---Thank you Marques. I've been looking for that verse, John 5:39. I've wondered what it means, this part:
"for in them ye think ye have eternal life"
Does this point back to the pharisee's and scribes, in that, they were loyal to the scripture but not to Christ and therefore he's saying ONLY IN ME is eternal life and that the scriptures can only testify of him?
Gary
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Not quite...it's impossible to be loyal (spiritually) to the scriptures and not to Christ...for the scriptures testify OF Christ.
John 5:37-40 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
Christ told them that the scriptures testify of Him...the scriptures (God's Word) does not abide in their heart, and is why they don't believe in Him. The Pharisees and Scribes did not believe that it is through Jesus (whom the scriptures DO testify of) that one obtains eternal (eonian) life.
Hope this helps,
Marques
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