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Marlene:
Great Scriptures you have given Kat.
Rysta, I believe that feeling ashamed of my actions is how God led me to repentance. Showing, me exactly what I am does not set well with me. Taking a look at that Beast is not a pretty site. But, I know it is the goodness of God that leads to repentance so we cannot even take credit for that. I know, God has everything in control. I have to learn to hate the things of the world. If, I continue to love them what good is any of this for me. But, I will learn and have victory as God leads.
In His Love,
Marlene
daywalker:
Hello again Rysta,
To add to what Kat posted... you do appear to want some sort of visible or physical evidence to prove God's existence to you. But the problem is, suppose He did manifest Himself in an obvious way, and erased all your doubts... what would happen to your "faith"? Well, you wouldn't need "faith" anymore, because you'd have your "proof". And once you prove something, it becomes a "fact" of which requires zero "faith" to believe.
But God wants us to have faith. And He wants our "faith" to grow and mature. If He wanted to prove to the world He exists, He'd simply do so... which one day, He will. But until then,
"...blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." - John 20:29
Daywalker. 8)
--- Quote from: TheRysta on July 08, 2009, 03:06:59 PM ---Thank you all for your input. ;D
As I gather from Marlene's posts the Holy Spirit works on people in different ways, as we all have different egos and different things about us which need correcting. It's odd because you act as if whenever a sin is revealed to you you feel ashamed. I am fully aware that I am a sinner, but I don't feel ashamed, nor do I feel proud. I am by nature quite a shameless person so I find it hard to comprehend what it is to other people... but if you're okay with it and you feel it leads to improvement then I have no quarrel. It's even made me think. Perhaps, with certain people, the Holy Spirit can be so desperate to change them that they could give them a vision of hell? That seems very extreme, but it could happen I guess.
@ Daywalker: Human lust for horror sickens me, but where are these testimonies? Even if I had just ONE it would make the difference.
It's funny. I have never had any experience of the Spirit. Or at least no obvious experience. I have ASD which gives me a very hightened sense of self and ego, so it's no wonder. However, I would never ever deny it. That's not out of fear, it's out of the evidence I see. It's like a knowledge of something I just haven't experienced. We can't prove God or Jesus but I would never lose faith in the Spirit. If only it knew me.
- Ryan
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24 Grams:
Hi all.
God will not prove to the world that He exists. Instead the world will come into the knowledge of the truth.
Proof suggests there is doubt, but of course we know....There is no doubt.
As for the original question from Rysta. Probably not.
Because the people who make the testimonies are either decieved or liars in the first place.
daywalker:
--- Quote from: 24 Grams on July 15, 2009, 06:04:06 PM ---Hi all.
God will not prove to the world that He exists. Instead the world will come into the knowledge of the truth.
Proof suggests there is doubt, but of course we know....There is no doubt.
As for the original question from Rysta. Probably not.
Because the people who make the testimonies are either decieved or liars in the first place.
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Correction: Faith suggests there is doubt... [faith is believing in something WITHOUT Proof...]. Proof means there's no doubt, because with Proof it becomes FACT.
God Bless,
Daywalker. 8)
24 Grams:
True. Sorry, but I meant to ask for proof suggests that you have doubt...Therefore asking for proof of something i.e. having to physically see it means that you don't believe or believe to lesser degree (if that is even possible).
Where as if you have Faith then you have no doubt, therefore not having to ask for proof in the first place...Because you already have proof...seeing it (the proof) in other means. Namely, Spiritually.
What I meant by this is that God is already proving to us His doings.... and we all know that God does not change...therefore God isn't going to just "appear" to non-believers. He is going to do it the way He as always done it because that is the only way.
Thanks, it was a mistake what posted previously... :)
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