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Marky Mark:
Linny.Um, ah, you are kidding about the bunny and Santa!!! Aren't you??? :o :D ::)

smeacham:

--- Quote from: Marlene on July 03, 2009, 11:06:29 PM ---Rysta, I don't know about you. But, the Spirit in me is judging  me and showing me I am a Beast.... There are so many days I can barely stand myself.

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I feel the same way, Marlene.  No, NOT about You  :D.  About me!

How's this for a testimony?  God is big, I am little.  He is good, I am bad.  God is smart, I am stupid.  God is perfect, I am imperfect.  God us trustworthy, I am untrustworthy.  God tells the truth, I tell lies.  God is God, I am NOT.  In fact, I've broken every one of the 10 commandments.

Beyond statements like Marlene's and mine, put no stake in what we or anybody else testifies.  In fact, I'm an imperfect, stupid, bad, untrustworthy, lying little man.  You shouldn't look to us or anybody else's testimony for faith.  Look to God alone, and let others do the same.

Steve

noeleena:
Hi....
     To be accepted with out ???? 
           Is more importaint  than any thing .  even though our creator  made this earth for us . to enjoy . with the blessing that goes with all that comes with being human . ((other wise we would not be here now ))
    Do we need proof  of what we have . or are we that blind that we reject the one who allowed  for us to be born . (( I dont mean out side of what the Lord allowed for .))  Just a thought ..
     ...noeleena...

Marky Mark:

--- Quote from: TheRysta on July 23, 2009, 02:43:18 AM ---Ah, I didn't see this coming.

It's not proof of God's existence I want. To me the very fact that I am a senient being is proof enough. It's testimonies about this fabled hell. I only seem to have seen testimonies OF it, but if there were also testimonies AGAINST it, then it would prove the unreliability of relying on these 'visions'. Otherwise, it becomes strange that we only have testimonies of hell, that it might be real. Even if I just had ONE counter vision that would be enough.

Heck... the visions don't even have to be divinely inspired at all! They can be fake mind-trips for all I care, just so long as it can be proven that the mind can generate BOTH experiences and not just ONE.

Ta
- Ryan

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Ryan,how about this for a so called counter vision of which you speak. Not from some type of quack  or  s-e-l-f reliance, but from the apostle Paul,a called and chosen and faithful servant of God. When the Father begins His works in you then and only then will the Truths of the Spirit wash over you, not unlike a wave of Righteousness and Truth.

Rely on Gods Word,always,not on the world...



 2 Corinthians 12
New International Version   

Paul’s Vision and His Thorn

1I must go on boasting. Although there is nothing to be gained, I will go on to visions and revelations from the Lord. 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. 3And I know that this man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows— 4was caught up to paradise. He heard inexpressible things, things that man is not permitted to tell. 5I will boast about a man like that, but I will not boast about myself, except about my weaknesses. 6Even if I should choose to boast, I would not be a fool, because I would be speaking the truth. But I refrain, so no one will think more of me than is warranted by what I do or say.

7To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surpassingly great revelations, there was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 10That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.



Peace...Mark

 

judith collier:
Rysta, Jesus said, "if you love me my father in heaven will love you and I will manifest myself to you" After 33 years of blind faith (given by God), He did just that. Can I count that as salvation? Oh dear God no! Now, 33 years later and still learning I tremble at the depths of sin I have in me. This is not a catwalk, this is unbelievably serious business, even though I do not worry about hell, per se, it grieves me to think of my offenses against God..  you do not know anything yet. Listen to everyone here and learn and be satisfied as to what you have at this point. Do not be superficial nor too curious about things, do seek but humbly tred this path, it is not for the faint of heart. People do not call christians "soldiers" for nothing. Question yourself concerning your curiosity. Judy

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