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meee:
Hi meefsgirl, No, I don't beleive any man has all the Truth. One day we will know all, but not in the here and now. Ray has said he doesn't know it all, as well. I think some point Ray out because they are grateful for God causing him and equiping him to teach. It is all God though and Ray would say that also.
hugs,meee
Roy Martin:
meefsgirl, I understand your concern, but we need to remember that few are chosen.
If many knew the truth, and were teaching it on many websites with many believers, then it would be many chosen and not a few.
I don't know of anyone alive other than Ray that is teaching this truth.
I have wondered about this many times. Who will be the next teacher when Ray is gone? Will that be the end of a human teacher?
Ray makes it clear that he doesn't know it all, and that he is human just like all of us, learning and growing in Spirit. He is just a man that has had his eyes opened more than ours, and has been chosen to teach.
I have great respect for Ray, but place him not on a pedestal. That isnt where he wants to be.
If all the preachers were teaching the truth, how could there be a few chosen?
If one leaves this truth behind then their eyes have not been opened.
I do believe that it is the Spirit that teaches us, and That should be our main source of understanding and learning, but God works through people and Ray and us are being worked and used by God. Of this I have no doubt.
Peace
Roy
meefsgirl:
--- Quote from: meee on June 29, 2009, 08:31:17 AM --- Hi meefsgirl, No, I don't beleive any man has all the Truth. One day we will know all, but not in the here and now. Ray has said he doesn't know it all, as well. I think some point Ray out because they are grateful for God causing him and equiping him to teach. It is all God though and Ray would say that also.
hugs,meee
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Thank you, meee... :)
meee:
--- Quote from: meefsgirl on June 29, 2009, 09:03:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: meee on June 29, 2009, 08:31:17 AM --- Hi meefsgirl, No, I don't beleive any man has all the Truth. One day we will know all, but not in the here and now. Ray has said he doesn't know it all, as well. I think some point Ray out because they are grateful for God causing him and equiping him to teach. It is all God though and Ray would say that also.
hugs,meee
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Thank you, meee... :)
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--- Quote from: meefsgirl on June 29, 2009, 08:06:39 AM ---
And I am also VERY glad that ordinary UR believers, faults and all, happened to preach and teach on that other orthodox forum so people like me could at least even hear about it.
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Meefsgirl, as far as other sites pointing to some truth, yes that is so. God uses this too and I know for me it has been kind of a round about journey. God using many teachings to bring me here. The other's say it much better than me, but you are very welcome.
meee with hugs and love
meefsgirl:
--- Quote from: Marky Mark on June 29, 2009, 08:46:36 AM ---meefsgirl,
I don't think anyone here at bt's puts Ray on any type of pedestal as you state .
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Actually I made a point to say that it 'seems' that people here put Ray on a pedestal to avoid saying they do.
--- Quote ---Time and time again all the Glory has gone to the Father and to His Son,your statement seems a little condescending to all who put their Trust and Faith into the Truths of the Spirit.You would be hard-pressed to find anyone here who would put Ray before anything that is of the Lord.I love Ray dearly as a brother and a teacher but that's what he is, a teacher,not some type of a hero .
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I think it's unfair to say I'm being condescending. I was simply stating an observation. I'm sincerely glad you do put the Lord before anyone else.
--- Quote --- Have you even read all the material on bible-truths.com,or is this site some type of a hobby that you nourish yourself with,for whatever reasons you deem necessary? As meee has already stated,Ray would be the first one to tell you that he does not know all of the Truths of the Lord,but many of them he does, and that is why we as Spiritual Truth seekers participate in these forums.We seek Gods Truth and Wisdom. Not any mans...
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I have read tons of Ray's articles. And I agree that Ray is 'one' of the best teachers on the web. And I believe He is taught of the Lord. Ray does not think he holds all the truth, I know that. In all sincerity though I need to say that it does come across 'strongly' that many of you do hold Ray up too high... he would probably hate that.
I wasn't trying to offend anyone, and if I have offended, I apologize.
In equal peace and understanding... meefsgirl
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