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Dave in Tenn:
Rom 14:4  ...His own Lord will determine whether he stands or falls. And stand he will, because God is able to make him stand.
 
That's ALL of us.  And that's the only way we will stand, because God is able to make us stand. 

Welcome to the forum, Pat and DMRH. 

dave:
I believe the order would be to HEAR, then called.......he that has a ear let him hear. At least thats how I see it. Peace

ez2u:
Why does this scripture always seems like a brass ring on a merry-go-round?  What do does this subject do for any one?  Seriously  Can anyone give me an answer  peggy

aqrinc:

Hi Peggy,

Maybe reading the complete chapter will clear up the merry go round. This chapter is addressing physical times, foods, haughtiness of certain believers. No doubt the greater Spiritual meaning is being shown right in the very same words. Why Love needs to be the primary motivater for doing anything.

Rom 14: 1-23 (CEV)
1  Welcome all the Lord's followers, even those whose faith is weak. Don't criticize them for having beliefs that are different from yours.
2  Some think it is all right to eat anything, while those whose faith is weak will eat only vegetables.
3  But you should not criticize others for eating or for not eating. After all, God welcomes everyone.
4  What right do you have to criticize someone else's servants? Only their Lord can decide if they are doing right, and the Lord will make sure that they do right.

5  Some of the Lord's followers think one day is more important than another. Others think all days are the same. But each of you should make up your own mind.
6  Any followers who count one day more important than another day do it to honor their Lord. And any followers who eat meat give thanks to God, just like the ones who don't eat meat.
7  Whether we live or die, it must be for God, rather than for ourselves.

8  Whether we live or die, it must be for the Lord. Alive or dead, we still belong to the Lord.
9  This is because Christ died and rose to life, so that he would be the Lord of the dead and of the living. (Dead Spiritually)
10  Why do you criticize other followers of the Lord? Why do you look down on them? The day is coming when God will judge all of us.

11  In the Scriptures God says, "I swear by my very life that everyone will kneel down and praise my name!"
12  And so, each of us must give an account to God for what we do.
13  We must stop judging others. We must also make up our minds not to upset anyone's faith.

14  The Lord Jesus has made it clear to me that God considers all foods fit to eat. But if you think some foods are unfit to eat, then for you they are not fit.
15  If you are hurting others by the foods you eat, you are not guided by love. Don't let your appetite destroy someone Christ died for.
16  Don't let your right to eat bring shame to Christ.

17  God's kingdom isn't about eating and drinking. It is about pleasing God, about living in peace, and about true happiness. All this comes from the Holy Spirit.
18  If you serve Christ in this way, you will please God and be respected by people.
19  We should try to live at peace and help each other have a strong faith.

20  Don't let your appetite destroy what God has done. All foods are fit to eat, but it is wrong to cause problems for others by what you eat.
21  It is best not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything else that causes problems for other followers of the Lord.
22  What you believe about these things should be kept between you and God. You are fortunate, if your actions don't make you have doubts.
23  But if you do have doubts about what you eat, you are going against your beliefs. And you know that is wrong, because anything you do against your beliefs is sin.

george. :)

bluzman:
Amen to your post to Peggy. Had I understood these words many years ago, much grief and pain would have been
spared myself, my family and my friends! I was on that road following carnal minded men like Armstrong, his son, and
the like who did my thinking for me. Everything that I loved and held dear I lost.
Looking back on my life I can see how and why this all had to be for me, but the pain is still there, every day.
I will copy and paste your post in wordpad, so that the Spirit of this scripture is never far from me.
What a wonderful place this forum really is to learn.
Thank you George.
Peace, Bluzman

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