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Rocket999:
I didn't think it was right that Ray said "my reader's are probably of a greater intelligence than you are"
Sounds a bit condescending to me.
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Rocket999 on July 03, 2009, 09:40:42 PM ---I didn't think it was right that Ray said "my reader's are probably of a greater intelligence than you are"
Sounds a bit condescending to me.
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Full email (http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,10244.0.html):
Dear Ray,
I hope you don't call yourself a Christian. I can't believe all the people who believe your crap. Don't think there's a hell? Last I heard you are fighting for your life, so you are close to finding out.
Dear Nameless: Don't insult the people who read my material. I am sure that most of them are of greater intelleigent and greater
morality than you are. You know absolutely nothing regarding the reality of an eternal hellhole of eternal terrorism and torture. Hell
is primarily limited to the the worst of pagan religions and the King James family of English Bibles. The Holy Scriptures know
absolutely nothing of this "hell." There is not one word that is the equivalent of the old English word hell, but for those who dispise
the Word of God there is no use even wasting my breath trying to explain. If I am wrong about you, then read the numerous artilces
that I have written on this evil and unscriptural heresy in my 'Lake of Fire" series.
God be with you,
Ray
PS Thank you for your concern over my health and well-being.
I think Ray may have just been defending those who come to the site to learn about scripture...the email sender, 'Nameless', brought up the readers of the site first.
But I understand where you're coming from...we never want to become 'high-minded' as that is the first step before a great fall.
Prov 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
I don't think Ray was being prideful, but it is always helpful to be reminded we should watch and be mindful of a haughty attitude.
Thanks,
Marques
jeetkunejimi:
Hi eggi,
Because he has appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he has ordained; whereof he has given assurance to all men, in that he has raised him from the dead. (Acts 17:31)
The thing that strikes me dude as did reading Fentons account of Genesis chapter one with reference to the aions of creation is the word 'DAY'. That DAY that has been appointed to which the world will be judged may not be a literal 24hr solar day. It could perhaps be referring to the Lake of Fire correction that will occur for those at the 2ND death. It is Jesus who will judge as God has ordained him to do so, and we can be doubley assured that it is Jesus because God raised Christ from Sheol. Jesus has been given all things into his hands and he didn't die to fall even one short of a full catch. So yes it is very assuring indeed to a chosen called out few of mankind to know that God will correct us all through Christ so we can be united with Father God for the aions to come, and it will also be just as assuring to those of the 2ND death when they realise it.
Hope that helps your study a bit, but I could be wrong. Nonetheless God's will be done. Amen.
bunnylife:
I remember reading this scripture and Ray talking about it. I have it cross-referenced with Romans 8:19-21 (KJV)
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, (assurance the Jesus was raised from the dead)
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ἐλπίς
elpis
el-pece'
Fromἔλπω elpō which is a primary word (to anticipate, usually with pleasure); expectation (abstract or concrete) or confidence: - faith, hope.
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
Why is creation (humanity) groaning...
When the sons and daughters of God (the Elect) are finally revealed then the rest of humanity will start on their journey of being set free by being judged in righteousness by the Man Christ and His Elect.
In His Joy,
Bunni
Patrick:
--- Quote from: Rocket999 ---I didn't think it was right that Ray said "my reader's are probably of a greater intelligence than you are"
Sounds a bit condescending to me.
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The author attacked us and then took it even deeper; attacking Ray's health and stating he's going to hell.
Main Entry: con·de·scend
Pronunciation: "kän-di-'send
Function: intransitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French condescendre, from Late Latin condescendere, from Latin com- + descendere to descend
Date: 14th century
1 a : to descend to a less formal or dignified level : UNBEND b : to waive the privileges of rank
2 : to assume an air of superiority
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--- Quote from: Ray ---Might I suggest that you read my paper: "YOU FOOLS! YOU HYPOCRITES! YOU SNAKES!" at the top of my home page. I guarantee you that you will never look at the Bible or Jesus Christ the same way again. And you might decide after reading what Jesus REALLY said to the Church leaders and clergymen of His, that you need to correct Jesus and His manner of teaching as well.
Just how many of those two-faced lying, deceiving, cut-throat, whited-sepulchres and hypocritical snakes in Matt. 23 do you suppose Jesus converted over to His way. Maybe you will think too that Jesus needed to be a little more "gentle?"
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--- Quote from: mharrell08 ---
I think Ray may have just been defending those who come to the site to learn about scripture...the email sender, 'Nameless', brought up the readers of the site first.
But I understand where you're coming from...we never want to become 'high-minded' as that is the first step before a great fall.
Prov 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
I don't think Ray was being prideful, but it is always helpful to be reminded we should watch and be mindful of a haughty attitude.
Thanks,
Marques
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I don't understand where your coming from.
I don't believe Ray was being prideful, nor do I believe he has an haughty attitude either.
Maybe he descended to a less formal or dignified level, but never have I witnessed him assume an air of superiority.
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