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Interesting concept/what generation?
Marky Mark:
Hello all.
Found this in the archives and thought it was a interesting post.
Comments welcome. :)
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1510.0.html
--- Quote ---The annointed,the overcomer,the few,the chosen,the body OF CHRIST----this is the 42nd generation
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As every one here on the BT forum knows,the bible is inerrant,the perfect Word of God.There are no mistakes to be found within it's pages,so when we come across statements that seem to be inaccurate,that stick out,you can believe that there is a reason and significance that was planned by the book's inspirer---God.The same is true for any mathematics and accounting in the text.With that in mind lets look at something...........
Matt 1:17 "So all the generations from Abraham to David are FOURTEEN generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are FOURTEEN
generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon into CHRIST are FOURTEEN generations."
Now if you take out your bible and read the names you will find that something is amiss.We should end up with 42 generations with Christ being the 42nd name on the list.But He isn't.Christ is infact number 41.There is one generation missing.So who is number 42?Who is THIS generation?Who are Christ's decendents and bare His name?Listen Up CHRISTains I am talking about you.
Isaiah 53;8-10 "He was taken from prison and from judgment: and WHO SHALL DECLARE HIS GENERATION? for He was cut off out of the land of the living: for the
transgression of my people was He stricken. And He made His grave with the wicked, and with the rich in His death; because He had done no violence, neither
was any deceit in His mouth. Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him, He hath put Him to grief, when thou shalt make His soul an offering for sin, HE SHALL
SEE HIS SEED, HE SHALL PROLONG HIS DAYS, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand."
Psalm22:30-31 ''A seed shall serve Him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for A GENERATION. They shall come, and shall DECLARE HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS unto a people
that shall be born, that He hath done this."
I Peter 2:9 . . . "BUT YE ARE A CHOSEN GENERATION, a royal
priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of Him who hath called you out of darkness into His marvelous light."
Now here is the icing on the cake-----Rev.11:15----"And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of OUR LORD AND OF HIS CHRIST; and He shall reign forever and ever."
Now if Jesus is LORD then WHO is His Christ?-------Psalms 2--"Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord,
and against His anointed (Christ), saying, Let us break THEIR bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh; the
Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Yet have I set my king upon my HOLY HILL
OF ZION. I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, THOU ART MY SON: this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the
heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. THOU SHALT BREAK THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON: THOU SHALT
DASH THEM IN PIECES LIKE A POTTER'S VESSEL."
The annointed,the overcomer,the few,the chosen,the body OF CHRIST----this is the 42nd generation
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Peace...Mark
aqrinc:
--- Quote ---As every one here on the BT forum knows,the bible is inerrant,the perfect Word of God.There are no mistakes to be found within it's pages,so when we come across statements that seem to be inaccurate,that stick out,you can believe that there is a reason and significance that was planned by the book's inspirer---God.The same is true for any mathematics and accounting in the text.With that in mind lets look at something...........
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Of course we would have to take the first statement at face value, do you?.
george. ???
mharrell08:
FYI: Email reply from Ray (http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1997.msg16418.html#msg16418):
Matthew Chapter 1 said there are 42 Generations in the time line between abraham and jesus and luke chapter 3 verse 23-34 saids there are 56 generations. Matthew chapter 1 saids that jsephs fathers name is jacob in verse 16 and luke 3 verse 23 saids its Heli even if he goes by more then one name it does not explain the disagreement of generations in the books.
Dear Reader:
There are many reason for this, and all of them are highly complicated. You can read about the possible solutions on your own. It would take ten pages to discuss the basics of all the possibilities. One genealogy apparently sticks to Joseph's literal linage, while the other to his legal linage through the "right of kings" to the throne of David, etc. Jesus had a bloodline through Mary back to Adam, but He was LEGALLY of the tribe of Judah and a descendant of King David, which gives His authority to sit on that throne as King of kings, etc. Also "son of" is in italioc and not the original. So some of the descendants were merely "of" so and so, not the literal first general "son" of so and so, etc. Sorry don't have time to go into this in an email.
God be with you,
Ray
I found this email where Ray touched on this a little but no paper or other definitive statements. Not disagreeing or agreeing just letting anyone know.
Hope this helps,
Marques
ericsteven:
Here is another possibility that may be of interest.
There are some who believe that many of the New Testament letters were originally written in Aramaic. In fact, you’ll find many scholars who maintain that at least the gospel of Matthew was originally written in Aramaic and then later translated into Greek.
Those who believe this use the Aramaic Peshitta, an early Aramaic version of the Scriptures, to back up their belief. You can go on Google and find sites both for and against the use of the Peshitta in trying to understand the Scriptures.
But, as it relates to this topic, one interesting thing is that, in the Peshitta, the word that is often translated as ‘husband’ in our English versions from the Greek in Matthew 1:16…
Matt 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
…could possibly also have the meaning of ‘father.’ The Greek is more precise than the Aramaic, so looking in the Greek Scriptures, the Greek word used would definitely mean ‘husband.’ But since words in the Aramaic can have a more varied meaning, the men who translated the Aramaic into Greek just chose the wrong Greek word to represent that word in Aramaic.
If that’s true, that would make Joseph, the father of Mary, the 13th generation and then Mary herself as the 14th. Thus no contradiction with Matthew’s later statement of the 14-14-14 generational pattern.
Anyway, just another point of view perhaps looking into, if you’re interested.
Eric
aqrinc:
--- Quote ---Those who believe this use the Aramaic Peshitta, an early Aramaic version of the Scriptures, to back up their belief. You can go on Google and find sites both for and against the use of the Peshitta in trying to understand the Scriptures.
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Hi ericsteven,
Are you referring to the Syriac Peshitta, or is there also an Aramiac version ???.
george. :)
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