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hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: kweli on July 13, 2009, 08:21:09 AM ---
BTW, the gospel is indeed  bitter sweet. I dont even know where to begin in outlining that to someone else...  >:(


--- End quote ---

Hi Kweli,

Unless they are living it Brother they will not understand.  ;)

His Peace to you,

Joe

Akira329:
I don't know what I would do without this place.
I may not post as often as I use to but I read quite often.
Sometimes the statements people make here need no addition from me!LOL
I thank God soooo much for you guys and gals!!
I thank God for the friendships I have established here that I need soooooo much!!
Thanks again for your insight Joe.
Your pretty precious to this forum man!!

Antaiwan

OBrenda:
Joe,

*  I've had times of dispare with the loss of people I grew very fond of here, (who have left)
*  I have felt anger at certain members whom I felt spoke with cruelty.
*  I have had my thoughts and comments taken inncorrectly.
*  I have been incorrect in my understanding, of what others struggle to articulate.
*  I have changed my position and understanding of things because of the responses to my comments from others.
*  Somethings I have not changed my understanding about and I'm still confused.

I do not know why some leave us, and some like myself stay.  But I strongly agree with you and embrace that staying here is not a (religious physical act) prerequisite for being the Chosen among the Called.  I'm truly tired of the "salesman manipulations" of every group to label and draw a circle around themselves as "the only true group"

I'm sandwiched tightly with one dear Friend whose path is now celebrating the Saturday Sabbath/No Pork/using the correct Name of Yashua/Jesus, basically adopting the OT laws (physically) But also with the insight of no Trinity, God is in control (predestination), and I think UR is also believed.

On the other side I have others who are desperate to set me right on the Trinity, the fear of Hell, no Free Will, if we don't take the gift of Salvation in this life by choice it is a done deal.  I've found it interesting that when speaking about these issues with scriptures, both camps end up expressing fear... (well I don't want to eat pork just in case).. (What if your wrong about Hell just in case).

I don't want to live my life here motivated by fear (just in case) I want to live and move and have my being directed by Faith.
The Fear or Respect that I live with today, is understanding that I may be a vessel of dishonor and within myself is not the power to decide it.  It is also humbling to know that of all the creative dynamic souls I know and admire. ordinary me could have a place to be in the first reserection...WOW!

Although I will endover to speak the truth of the scriptures with boldness (as I understand them) I no longer feel the arrogance that I need to defend and stick up for our Heavenly Father God.  He is very well capable of defending himself.  Sometimes my ego gets in there still.  What people believe... has no reflection on ME personally.  It is God who gives eyes to see and not to see.  I'm confident that I still have much blindness myself.

The point of every interaction with others is to find what never fails..... Love.
I see and have learned that simple but profound truth here.  And although the beast my still peek his head in here, I'm so very grateful to have had the privilege to bump spirits with all of you.

I haven't had much to share lately, but this post inspired my mouth to run over...

YSIC,
Brenda

mharrell08:
Well said Brenda, well said.


Marques

Samson:
Hello,

         Thanks to Joe for starting this thread, I've been following the Posts of the thread, but haven't commented, until now. I generally don't comment as often, as in the past, unless I really have something to contribute and if a particular point is already expressed that summarizes my thoughts on that subject.

         Marques made a fine contribution and many others, as well. The thoughts expressed by Brenda seem to summarize my perspective regarding the whole religious/spiritual subject. See some of her comments copied and pasted from her Post in blue, particular points, I share as well.

         I do not know why some leave us, and some like myself stay.  But I strongly agree with you and embrace that staying here is not a (religious physical act) prerequisite for being the Chosen among the Called.  I'm truly tired of the "salesman manipulations" of every group to label and draw a circle around themselves as "the only true group"

         I don't want to live my life here motivated by fear (just in case) I want to live and move and have my being directed by Faith.
The Fear or Respect that I live with today, is understanding that I may be a vessel of dishonor and within myself is not the power to decide it.  It is also humbling to know that of all the creative dynamic souls I know and admire. ordinary me could have a place to be in the first reserection...WOW!


         Although I will endover to speak the truth of the scriptures with boldness (as I understand them) I no longer feel the arrogance that I need to defend and stick up for our Heavenly Father God.  He is very well capable of defending himself.  Sometimes my ego gets in there still.  What people believe... has no reflection on ME personally.  It is God who gives eyes to see and not to see.  I'm confident that I still have much blindness myself

         The above comments in blue of Brenda's, in particular, for the most part express my perspective on matters. Due to time constraints, I was unable to join the conversation at an earlier time. One thing, I'd like to express, as mentioned from Joe's initial list regarding people's complaints prior to leaving the Forum, the point he made regarding certain members that tend to gravitate in conversation and closeness, this tends to happen, not only inside the forum, but outside, as well. I guess one might say, it's only natural(probably Carnal), but fact, no less. Of course there is a Scripture that mentions widening out in ones fellowship with other believers, but couldn't find it. I admit that I'm guilty of being drawn to conversation with particular members, especially when we tend to think alike with these members, admittedly it's the path of least resistance.

                                      Kind Regards, Samson.



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