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NoviceBeliever:
--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on July 27, 2009, 02:01:47 PM ---Yup, believers post don't sit well with my spirit.
I don't post much myself and i don't know much, but i've always trust God's spirit to indicate to me when something aint right. All i gotta say is i got a bad vibe from believersx post.
God bless,
Alex
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Lev 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
Lev 19:34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
Deu 10:19 Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Pro 10:12 Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses.
Pro 27:5 Better is open rebuke than hidden love.
Mic 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
Mat 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.'
Mat 5:44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
Mat 5:45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
Mat 5:46 For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
Mat 5:47 And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?
Mat 5:48 You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Joh 13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.
Joh 13:35 By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another."
Rom 12:10 Love one another with brotherly affection. Outdo one another in showing honor.
Rom 14:15 For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died.
1Co 13:2 And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
1Co 13:13 So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
1Co 14:1 Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy.
1Co 16:14 Let all that you do be done in love.
2Co 13:11 Finally, brothers, rejoice. Aim for restoration, comfort one another, agree with one another, live in peace; and the God of love and peace will be with you.
BelieverX: I am not as well versed in expressing myself in scripture as many others, but I know that here we can offer you understanding, support, and love. It may not always be expressed perfectly, but I have found that those who are called here by GOD are of like mind and that we do love one another.
NB
arion:
There was an absolute humility in Paul and all the apostles of our Lord. They got that humility because God showed them all who and what they really are. God showed them the beast within and they loathed themselves for it. They knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was Christ who lived in them and that they were crucified with Christ. You show me a contemporary man or woman of God who walks in that level of humility and I'll pay attention to what they have to say about themselves but show me the humility first. The current crop of 'apostles', 'prophets', and 'teachers' reek with arrogance, pride and vanity. When I started to read Ray's teachings and I read some things that made him sound abrasive I knew I had to listen to his audio's in order to discern his heart. That man knows humility and that is why I listen to what he has to say.
daywalker:
--- Quote from: Arion on July 27, 2009, 02:32:26 PM ---There was an absolute humility in Paul and all the apostles of our Lord. They got that humility because God showed them all who and what they really are. God showed them the beast within and they loathed themselves for it. They knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was Christ who lived in them and that they were crucified with Christ. You show me a contemporary man or woman of God who walks in that level of humility and I'll pay attention to what they have to say about themselves but show me the humility first. The current crop of 'apostles', 'prophets', and 'teachers' reek with arrogance, pride and vanity. When I started to read Ray's teachings and I read some things that made him sound abrasive I knew I had to listen to his audio's in order to discern his heart. That man knows humility and that is why I listen to what he has to say.
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Yep, yep, great post Arion.
If there's any man alive, that I know, that is worthy of being called a true modern-day "apostle", it would be Ray. Yet, even he refuses to call himself one. He doesn't take the title of 'apostle' or 'prophet', but simply calls himself a 'teacher'. This too me is true Godliness and humility, as I have learned more from his teachings then anyone else. Not only have I learned so much about God and His Word, but how to discern it, understand it, and how to tell if someone is speaking the Truth or not.
So far, I've yet to read a contradiction or false truth in any of Ray's teachings. Yet, I have read several books, and though I may agree with some or much of what they say, I can also see things they teach that are decisively against the Scriptures, and I can find the Scriptures that prove this to be true in each case, and relatively quickly.
Truly, Ray is being inspired by God, and is setting us a great modern-day example of how we should live. Praise God for Ray and for bibletruths, and for this forum of likeminded believers seeking Truth, and Truth alone. ;D
Peace, out.
Daywalker 8)
bluzman:
Right on Daywalker!!!
Bluzman
believerx:
how does anyone really know what godly humility really looks like - when the only thing you can compare it with is your own limited experience based on the way dumb animals behave?
paul called the galatians fools.
he said the corinthians had NO KNOWLEDGE OF GOD.
james said the 12 tribes he was writing to ( christians) were a bunch of murderous adulteresses that showed evil partiality.
to equate gentleness in an earthly sense with true humility is unscriptural. sorry that is just a fact.
i am humble. i have been humble for quite sometime now. but you would not know that about me. someone asked if there were apostles and i gave a detailed scriptural answer. based on what i proved to be a errant statement.
( that apostles dont call themselves apostles!)
so what if i say i am never wrong? i also dont go beyond what God has shown me-
( Ro. 15:18 For I will not presume to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me, resulting in the obedience of the Gentiles by word and deed...)
and He has shown me A LOT! but only in comparison to what i have seen from everyone else i have encountered, including Ray Smith. so what?
but because of the forum rules that i agreed to, i am not allowed to teach.
but doesnt everyone really " teach" when they give their opinion?
i could add immeasurable value here but i am not allowed. i have been shut down.
regards,
a nobody
2 cor 12:11
2 cor 12:11
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