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A little worried... the Holy Spirit?
TheRysta:
I didn't expect so many people to pick up on that last thing I said.
Yes I have been enlightened by Ray's teachings, but only insomuch as a scientist would be enlightened by a new discovery. I have had nothing confirmed by the Spirit.
daywalker:
--- Quote from: TheRysta on July 24, 2009, 06:06:09 PM ---Hey guys.
First off I have some really good news. There was one woman called Mary Baxter who claimed she had seen hell and all this stuff, and because I am so naturally timid to this I took it all in last Winter. After about six months of worrying I have finally read some of her material and it is LAUGHABLE. It's absolutely CHILDISH. It has actually made me MORE confident that there is no eternal hell. It also raises the question, "Is there a devil?" because if this woman is out to decieve the masses it certainly wasn't our crafty Satan because he wouldn't have been STUPID enough to convince someone to write this ridiculous stuff. I can't BELIEVE people swallow it. Decievers...
Anyway, although that worry has more or less died down I still feel like I'm being decieved. It's like I'm trying to construct my whole belief system all at once and around every corner I wonder if I'm being decieved. I'm suffering from this religious psychosis, that the devil might be around every corner. It's NOWHERE NEAR as bad as it was, don't get me wrong, but the thing is I can never be sure that the conclusions I come up with are true. I have only just started praying and I'm still learning to recognise signs.
This said, I was wondering if anyone on this site feels as if they have had it confirmed to them by the Holy Spirit that certain things are true. We can conspire as much as we want but our wisdom to God is foolishness. Does anyone feel truly that they have been enlightened by any of Ray's teachings?
Thanks. Dunno if this is supposed to be a private thing or not, I'm just curious.
- Ryan
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Of course, the Devil is around every corner... you're learning the TRUTHS of God.. and wherever the TRUTH is, there also is Satan, the Great Deceiver, to try and "snatch it away".
Mark 4:13 And He [Jesus] said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?
14 The sower soweth the word.
15 And these are they by the way side, where the word [That's the Truth, the Word of God] is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.
Of course, the Devil is responsible for the ludicrous teachings of eternal hell that is being sold--LITERALLY--around the world as if it were truth... but the "deceiving" part is the Good Works. These people who LIE and DECEIVE also, do many Good Deeds.
To answer your question... If Ray's teachings didn't 'enlighten' me, I probably wouldn't come here and read them. I used to read from several other Christian sites, but now I can see the stupidity in their writings so I don't go there anymore.
Peace, Out.
- Daywalker 8)
OBrenda:
--- Quote from: firefly77 on July 24, 2009, 07:55:48 PM ---I second that ;D !!!
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I third that !!! ;D
And Ditto to Daywalker! ;D
An Amen to Joe!
"Confirmation of the Spirit" isn't seated in our feelings or IQ scores...(not that you implied that) ;) just my opinion.
Faith & Grace & Eyes that See....are all gifts from God, to those he is calling Now.
It may be more scriptural to "Test the Spirits"....
Fasten your seatbelt You will be Blessed & Shaken.....again & again. Especially here!
Kat:
Hi Ryan,
I think you are in a big hurry to find comformation that this is the truth and that's understandable that you want some kind of proof. But actually I think all of us here have searched for many years before being shown this truth. We have heard so much heresy and doctrines of man that now this truth shines light a beacon in the night to us. I don't know what God will use to confirm it with you or when, but be assured that when He determines for you to have that assurance, you will.
What I would suggest is that you seek Him in the Scriptures and prayer as much as you can. The more you study the Scriptures (and Ray's articles are a really big help) the more you draw near to God.
James 4:8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.
And yes there really is a devil. Look at this Scripture is Job.
Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the LORD.
How can Satan "present himself before the lord," if he is not real? But you need not be fearful that the devil is going to get you, God controls all things, even Satan.
James 4:7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
G. Driggs:
Hi theRysta, I have heard Ray say something to the effect that we shouldnt be too worried about the devil, focus more on God, because we can always tell the devil to flee. We should be a bit more concerned about the beast within, because it is always there. I think sometimes we are our own worst enemy.
Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Mat 4:11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.
Jas 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Peace, G.Driggs
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