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aqrinc:
--- Quote from: daywalker on August 04, 2009, 08:54:36 PM ---
Yea,
I never understood why Catholics put so much more emphasis on Mary, rather than Jesus Christ. I've always wondered when it started, but haven't yet taken the time to research it. I imagine that it started around the same time they started praying to the [dead] Apostles.
Not too long ago, I was talking to someone who is a Catholic, and she mentioned that she prays to Mary and the Saints. I told her that if she wanted her prayers answered she should stop praying to dead people and start praying to the Living God. Amazingly, she was offended by my comments.
The Spiritual Darkness and Deception that has overcome this world, especially Christendom is mind-boggling to say the least. But what's more mind-boggling is that we, too, were overcome by this same Darkness, until Christ shown His Light on us.
That's the REAL shocker... :o ???
Peace, Out
Daywalker 8)
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Amen.
There but for The Grace Of GOD; go i, and you and you and you and, get the message ?????????????.
Eph 2: 8-9 (MKJV)
8 For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God,
9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Below is one long verse.
Col 1: 21-26 (MKJV)
21 And you, who were once alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled
22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy and without blemish, and without charge in His sight,
23 if indeed you continue in the faith grounded and settled, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which you have heard and which was proclaimed in all the creation under Heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister,
24 who now rejoice in my sufferings on your behalf, and I fill up the things lacking of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh, on behalf of His body, which is the church;
25 of which I became a minister, according to the administration of God given to me for you, to fulfill the Word of God;
26 the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints.
george. :)
darren:
Hey everybody, I just wanted to throw my two cents worth on this topic. I went to Catholic school from the first grade to the fourth grade. Even at that age I felt uneasy going into the BOX (confession box) every Fri. Then the wait in line in order to eat the wafer (The Body of Christ). Then ever Sunday going to church. I remember being in the pew kneeling down and praying to a statue of Jesus or Mary. They even had statues of a few Saints. I remember asking one of the priest why do I have to pray to the Saint and He said because they will bring your prayer to God. Then in my high school yrs I befriend a kid who went to a Catholic school. Him and his parents would go to church every Sunday. I asked him why do we have to pray to the saints and he gave me the same reason that the priest gave me yrs before. When I became an adult I stopped going to the Catholic church. I started reading and studying God;s word on my own. I found out that I did not have to pray to the saints in order for my prayers to be heard. Now,, Is it not a sin to pray to a statue no matter who the statue is. JESUS, Mary, or the Saints. I s it not true that one does not have to go in the box and tell his sins to a man wearing a robe. Why does this man forgives me in Gods name. Why do I need a middle man. Jesus died for all of mankind. would not this make Him the man. As I just read, when we pray The Holy Spirit intercedes on our behalf. Anyway I can keep on going on about the catholic religion. OH YEA, my nice was going to a catholic school last yrs and I started reading Ray's papers. Rays papers hit me like a ton of bricks. I finally found a teacher who teaches the thing I believe. Man you know when you first found out the truth about hell How sometime you just want to so I knew it and I can't wait to tell someone? Well in my family that someone was my nieces priest. The priest would tell her their truth on hell then she would ask me what do I think, first I would tell her what I believe and then I would show her. I would show her Ray;s papers hell. or what ever subject they were discussing at the time. When she went back to school she would get into trouble. They would show their contempt by calling her mother or request her mother to come in. She hated that. Sorry for rambling on like this, but this topic about the catholics has been on my mind for a very long time. There's so much more but enough is enough.
Thank you so much for letting me rant.
PS great topic ez2u
Darren
Astrapho:
Lolyes Darren I share your thoughts.
I'm still in Catholicism (Although in name only), and I'm still under the Confirmation. They can seriously say "Mother Mary leads us to salvation" and think it's ok. They can say "Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy" and think it's ok. Here's an excerpt in a book "The Secret of the Rosary":
"DeMontFort calls the rosary "The mystical rose tree of Jesus and Mary in life, death, and eternity." He says that the roses of your rosary will never wilt or die, and they will be just as exquisite thousands of years from now as they are today."
Uhm no my rosary rusted a long time ago.
"Are you in the miserable state of sin? Then call on the divine Mary and say to her: Ave, which means "I salute thee with the most profound respect, thou who art without sin" and she will deliver you from the evil of your sins.
Are you groping in the darkness of ignorance and error? Go to Mary and say to her: Hail Mary; which means "Hail thou who art bathed in the light of the Sun of Justice"-- and she will give you some of her light.
Have you strayed from the path leading to Heaven? Then call on Mary, for her name means "Star of the Sea, the North Star which guides the ships of our souls during the voyage of this life," and she will guide you to the harbor of eternal salvation."
EDIT: I'm sorry, that was NOT the worst.
"I should like to give you even more reason for embracing this devotion which so many great souls have practised; the Rosary recited with meditation on the mysteries brings about the following marvelous results:
1. It gradually gives us a perfect knowledge of Jesus Christ.
2. It purifies our souls, washing away sin.
3. It gives us victory over all our enemies.
4. It makes it easy for us to practise virtue.
5. It sets us on fire with love of our Blessed Lord. (Comment: I've never felt it through the Rosary.)
6. It enriches us with graces and merits.
7. CLIMAX:IT SUPPLIES WHAT IS NEEDED TO PAY ALL OUR DEBTS TO GOD and to our fellow men, and finally, it OBTAINS ALL KINDS OF GRACES FOR US FROM ALMIGHTY GOD."
NO! -tears out hair-
And so on, and so forth. This obviously completely blasphemous book has sold MORE THAN A MILLION COPIES.
I'm feeling so disgusted it's not even funny. After reading this book, I didn't even want to say the rosary anymore, even if I don't mean it.
arion:
I certainly don't want to club anyone over the head with a scripture and of course the Protestant churches are just as guilty as the Catholic ones albeit in different ways at times yet I have to point out that once we know the truth of these things should be still go to their services and go through the motions with them?
--- Quote ---Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
--- End quote ---
I know it's easier said than done and being single I don't have to placate a spouse or children. However the blashpemy and paganism is getting so rank in the institutional churches of men how much longer can we tolerate having anything to do with them? The churches and the organization of course....not the people that are caught up in the deception.
NoviceBeliever:
I have to say, not to proudly, I use to be a Catholic Basher. I never quite understood the meaning of all the ritualistic behaviors that the church practiced. And I could never get the fact that the catholic church uses a book of catachism instead of actually reading from the bible ??? But how can we condemn others, when it is only through GOD opening our own eyes that we have the understanding that we do. GODS ways are not our ways and only he knows the grand plan. NB
Rom 14: 1-23 (CLV)
1 Welcome all the Lord's followers, even those whose faith is weak. Don't criticize them for having beliefs that are different from yours.
2 Some think it is all right to eat anything, while those whose faith is weak will eat only vegetables.
3 But you should not criticize others for eating or for not eating. After all, God welcomes everyone.
4 What right do you have to criticize someone else's servants? Only their Lord can decide if they are doing right, and the Lord will make sure that they do right.
5 Some of the Lord's followers think one day is more important than another. Others think all days are the same. But each of you should make up your own mind.
6 Any followers who count one day more important than another day do it to honor their Lord. And any followers who eat meat give thanks to God, just like the ones who don't eat meat.
7 Whether we live or die, it must be for God, rather than for ourselves.
8 Whether we live or die, it must be for the Lord. Alive or dead, we still belong to the Lord.
9 This is because Christ died and rose to life, so that he would be the Lord of the dead and of the living. (Dead Spiritually)
10 Why do you criticize other followers of the Lord? Why do you look down on them? The day is coming when God will judge all of us.
11 In the Scriptures God says, "I swear by my very life that everyone will kneel down and praise my name!"
12 And so, each of us must give an account to God for what we do.
13 We must stop judging others. We must also make up our minds not to upset anyone's faith.
14 The Lord Jesus has made it clear to me that God considers all foods fit to eat. But if you think some foods are unfit to eat, then for you they are not fit.
15 If you are hurting others by the foods you eat, you are not guided by love. Don't let your appetite destroy someone Christ died for.
16 Don't let your right to eat bring shame to Christ.
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