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Judess:
Hi everyone!

It's my first post in this forum so please be gentle!   ;)

I was reading a topic and saw this verse:

Gen 3:14-15  And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

I remember reading somewhere on Ray's site that dust = humankind and therefore Satan is like a lion waiting to devour us. However, I wonder why God would curse Satan to devour us. :(

That sounds more like punishment for us than Satan.

I know Satan's purpose is to devour us but it seems weird that God would command that as a curse to Satan. I would have thought Satan loved devouring us as it is already.

Therefore, could the 'dust' in this context mean something else other than humankind? We know it's not literal. Could it just be a metaphor to show how low Satan was cursed to go? So low that he has to be on his belly and eat dust (off the floor)?

Or is it symbolic?

Any insights would be appreciated!

Thank you. :)

daywalker:

Hello there,

First off, welcome to the BT Forum, or as I like to call it "The L.A.B." [Life After Babylon]. Fill free to stick around and stay for awhile, don't be shy... ;)

Onto your topic:

Genesis 3:19 For dust you [Adam, humans] are and to dust you will return.

I Corinthians 15:47 The first man (Adam) was of the dust of the earth

Isaiah 40:15 Surely the nations are like a drop in a bucket; they are regarded as dust on the scales; he weighs the islands as though they were fine dust.

Genesis 3:14 So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, 'Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life.

Luke 22:31 Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift you as wheat...

I Peter 5:8 Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.


The Scriptures make it very clear that the "dust" that Satan eats is "humanity". However, the phrase "on your belly shall though go" can definitely represent his position with the rest of creation--He is cursed above ALL creation--or rather, ALL creatures are "above" him--that would make him the absolute lowest form of creation.

That along with the prophesy of Christ and His Followers who would "bruise thy [Satan's] head" is a very significant curse. The fulfillment of this prophecy began when Christ began His Ministry, and continues to be fulfilled today through His Elect, His True Church:

Luke 10:19 Lo! I have given you authority to be treading upon serpents and scorpions and over the entire power of the enemy, and nothing shall be injuring you under any circumstances."

Of course, He's not talking about literal 'serpents' and 'scorpions', he's talking about Satan and his army, as we see in the next verse...

20 However, in this be not rejoicing, that the spirits are subject to you, yet be rejoicing that your names are engraven in the heavens."

These "spirits" are those of "spiritual darkness in the heavenlies"--Ephesians 6:12.


Anyways, hope this helps. And again, welcome to The L.A.B.!!  :D

- Daywalker  8)

Roy Martin:
To the carnal mind it does sound like Satan did something that God didn't want him to do.
 Genesis 3:14 So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, 'Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life.
 How do we give answer to that?

Roy

Patrick:

--- Quote from: Roy Martin ---To the carnal mind it does sound like Satan did something that God didn't want him to do.
 Genesis 3:14 So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, 'Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life.
 How do we give answer to that?

Roy

--- End quote ---

http://bible-truths.com/lake9.html

But always remember, Satan never operates beyond his God-given parameters as we will see in the case of Job.

God gave Satan charge over Job, his body, and all his possessions, to try him severely before God:

"And the Lord said unto SATAN, Behold, he [Job] is in your hand; but save his life" (Job 2:6).

It was GOD’S idea to severely try Job, not Satan’s. But Satan took strict orders from God as to just how he could try Job. Satan got permission from God at each and every step of this severe trying of Job. Do we think God does it differently today? Do we think Satan now has "free reign"- "free will?" Do we think that God "changes?" Nonsense: "For I am the LORD, I change not…" (Mal. 3:6).

David prayed for God to use Satan in judging his enemies:

"Set you a wicked man over him: and let SATAN stand at his right hand" (Psalm 109:6).

Are not these activities of Satan necessary? Does God use Satan for no good purpose? Then why can’t men see that God also CREATED Satan for these very purposes?

Satan is constantly finding fault with God’s Chosen ones:

"And he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and SATAN standing at his right hand to resist [accuse] him" (Zech. 3:1).

Remember, Satan can do NOTHING without God’s approval. When God completed His creating, He said

"And God saw EVERY THING that He had made [including Satan, the Adversary], and, behold, it was VERY GOOD…" (Gen. 1:31).

Satan was not only necessary, but he was, in fact, PERFECT for the job that God created him to fulfill.

SATAN ATTEMPTS THE IMPOSSIBLE

Satan tried to disqualify Jesus at the beginning of His ministry:

"Then was Jesus led up of the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil" (Matt. 4:1).

Notice that it was the spirit of God that led Jesus to be tempted of the devil. Can we not see that Satan serves a needful purpose in God’s plan? It was absolutely needful that Satan tempt Jesus. If it weren’t needful, God wouldn’t have done it! And so Satan tried to bribe Christ into worshiping him:

"Again, the DEVIL takes Him up into an exceeding high mountain, and shows Him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; and says to Him, All these things will I give You, if You will fall down and worship me" "Matt. 4:8-9).

Let’s notice a few things overlooked by most Sunday school teachers (and most of the world’s greatest theologians as well). Ready? Are you sure? Okay, here goes: ALL THE NATIONS OF THE ENTIRE WORLD BELONG TO SATAN THE DEVIL!!! Heaven and Earth are God’s possessions, however, God has delegated the nations to Satan. Satan could not offer all these kingdoms of the world to Jesus if he did not possess them to offer them in the first place. They are Satan’s ignorant kingdoms:

"In whom the god [SATAN] of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, Who is the Image of God, should shine unto them" (II Cor. 4:4).

Oh, that the Church would believe the Scriptures. Why are there billions who "believe not" in the world? Is it because they CHOOSE to believe not? That’s what well-intentioned Christians tell me all the time. "Ray! these people CHOOSE to go to hell." How, pray tell, can they "choose" to go to hell, when they "believe NOT" in the first place. They don’t "make a choice," the choice is made for them, because they "believe not." And JUST WHY do they "believe not?"

Will you insist on the Church’s answer or will you humbly accept God’s answer? "In whom the God of this world has BLINDED the minds of them that believe NOT…" That’s why they can’t "see" to make the right choice—THEY ARE BLIND!

Now then, what would happen if God were to REMOVE that Satanic blindness? Would they STILL choose to reject Jesus Christ and His gospel? We don’t need to speculate, let’s read it:

"In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not, LEST the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, SHOULD SHINE UNTO THEM" (II Cor. 4:4).

When the deception is taken away, people will understand. When the blindness is taking away, people will see the truth.

Next, notice what Jesus Himself says would happen if this Satanic blindness were removed:

"For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed [Why? Why are their eyes ‘closed?’ Because, "the god of this world has BLINDED… them…" That’s why] lest at ANY TIME they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should BE CONVERTED, and I should HEAL them" (Matt. 13:15).

This is not rocket science. When Satan blinds the minds of people, they "believe NOT." And they cannot repent, be converted, or saved until the blindness is lifted and they are given a knowledge of the Truth. But is it God’s will that such a thing will ever happen?

"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savour; Who WILL have all men to be saved [and just how might that come about?], and to come unto the KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH" (I Tim. 2:4).



 

hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: Judess on August 05, 2009, 08:31:06 PM ---Hi everyone!

It's my first post in this forum so please be gentle!   ;)

I was reading a topic and saw this verse:

Gen 3:14-15  And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

I remember reading somewhere on Ray's site that dust = humankind and therefore Satan is like a lion waiting to devour us. However, I wonder why God would curse Satan to devour us. :(

That sounds more like punishment for us than Satan.

I know Satan's purpose is to devour us but it seems weird that God would command that as a curse to Satan. I would have thought Satan loved devouring us as it is already.

Therefore, could the 'dust' in this context mean something else other than humankind? We know it's not literal. Could it just be a metaphor to show how low Satan was cursed to go? So low that he has to be on his belly and eat dust (off the floor)?

Or is it symbolic?

Any insights would be appreciated!

Thank you. :)



--- End quote ---

Hi Judess,

I will try to be gentle!  ;)

A curse does not necessarily have to be immediately suffered. Remember Adam (and Eve) were cursed after disobeying God but they did not die right after this disobedience.

If we look at let's say sexual promiscuity or a drug addiction as a curse the person who is "cursed" with these issues may very well spend years enjoying themselves and actually laughing at any dire warnings at what will be in store down the road and they even could deceive themselves into believing they could stop any time they really wanted to without ever having to suffer for it.

Then there are those with the "damn the torpedoes" attitude who are of the mind that "I don't care what happens tomorrow, I will live for any pleasure I might have today." (Isa 22:13, 1Cor 15:32)

This same principle may be Satan and his angels fate, this "curse" could very well be giving him the same sort of temporary pleasure a drug user/addict or fornicator enjoys. The gratification is fleeting and must be repeated often to stay "high" or "satisfied."

There is evidence that Satan and his demons know there is a day coming when these "sins" that are temporarily satisfying them will come to an end.

Matthew 8:29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

See what I mean?

Peace,

Joe

 

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