> General Discussions
His return? Some questions.
mercie:
I am talking to me first here everyone, that when we are wrong or do not see our understand things quite the way they should be, let us all be humble enough to admit it and if and when we are wrong. And like wise let us show patient to each other when showing those(including myself) that they are not quite right to give a soft answer.
Amen Bobby.
If we can all remember we are Each at at different levels of Understanding knowing we will never all agree on every point .
Not Even Mike or Ray.
chrissiela:
I wasn’t going to post anymore for awhile either, but I got notice of a PM so came to check that… and so read a few threads…. etc, etc, etc…. so much for will-power. :roll:
I will just say this:
What does it mean for MORTAL to “put on� immortality? What does it man for CORRUPTION to “put on� incorruption? Etc.
Yes, without Christ and HIS resurrection we are “dead� (no life in us) and “without hope� and our “faith is in vain�.
Who here has ever said otherwise?
What does the “literal return� of Christ mean? Is His coming in the spirit not a “literal" return?
What does “every eye will see Him� mean? Will they also “perceive� Him?
What does i“He will return in like manner� mean? A “cloud� received Him, right? What does that mean?
He shall see “the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory�. What does that mean?
God will destroy all flesh with “fire from heaven�. Literally true? YES! Literal fire? :shock:
(I thought we didn’t believe in “literal (physical) fire�. Does it sound more “humane� or more “God-like� to believe in a “temporary� literal (physical) fire, then to believe in an “endless� literal (physical) fire? :? )
God is the same “yesterday, today and forever�. Is He destroying any of our flesh with "literal" (physical) fire from heaven? Or is this SPIRITUAL?
Just some questions I started asking myself.
Blessings,
Chrissie
Daniel:
--- Quote from: parsonssc ---
--- Quote from: Daniel ---
--- Quote from: parsonssc ---
--- Quote from: longhorn ---Simple answer in laymans term is what was asked, and nobody on this forum can do it, that I can promise you.
--- End quote ---
Longhorn,
Yes..........Is that simple enough?
:D
Craig
--- End quote ---
Plain arrogance, I dont see either of you helping Alex?
How can you both speak that way?
Craig I know you are Moderator, if I get kicked off for questioning this approach so be it. Then the Lords will be done, my time is up. I'll move on. But how can this be helpful to Alex anyone?
Daniel
--- End quote ---
I'm sorry Daniel, I wasn't answering Alex, or you, I was replying to Longhorn.
Did you notice the :D :D
I wasn't trying to be arrogant, sorry that you took it that way.
Craig
--- End quote ---
Craig
Then I would ask you to forgive me brother I was then clearly wrong.
I did not think you were replying to anyone but to longhorn. I had assumed to hear through longhorn (not as much yourself but in "agreement with him"). The whole thing as worded sounded very much like this,
It was as to say, you fools in the undertone (exalting oneself). Yet not helping either. Especially if one had a helpful answer for Alex. I saw (in your response as moderater) agreeing with this same horrid attitude. The being in "agreement" which such an attitude.
All I could think was, "How dare we do this to our own brothers"? Agreeing with such a way about ourselves, not seeing the shame of this way in ourselves.
One thing about Alex is his honest questions and seeking heart. There is not a hint of "know it all" in him. He has a sincerity that seems so plain (to my conscience) and a humility that I find not only rare but precious.
His signiture says it all, "struggling every step of the way". Which is to say to me of him... "assist me, help me, be a brother to me". And please in ones way of speaking (either directly or indirectly) don't tell me how stupid or confused I am. Especially not to one who is walking in humility (as one should be) and has been so gracious.
Its a very different thing when approaching "the proud" in such things and in their ways should be adressed. As both our Lord and Paul did to undo such hypocrisy.
Then Craig I do owe you an apology if that is not how you meant it, and an open apology at that. I do apologize to you Craig. Forgive me brother, I would be wrong then.
And Joe, I appreciate your good words, thank you for being what appears as fair not only as a moderater but as a brother in our Lord Jesus Christ.
Gods blessings on you both, thank you both for being gracious to me of yourselves.
Peace
Daniel
Daniel:
--- Quote from: chrissiela ---I wasn’t going to post anymore for awhile either, but I got notice of a PM so came to check that… and so read a few threads…. etc, etc, etc…. so much for will-power. :roll:
I will just say this:
What does it mean for MORTAL to “put on� immortality? What does it man for CORRUPTION to “put on� incorruption? Etc.
Yes, without Christ and HIS resurrection we are “dead� (no life in us) and “without hope� and our “faith is in vain�.
Who here has ever said otherwise?
What does the “literal return� of Christ mean? Is His coming in the spirit not a “literal" return?
What does “every eye will see Him� mean? Will they also “perceive� Him?
What does i“He will return in like manner� mean? A “cloud� received Him, right? What does that mean?
He shall see “the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory�. What does that mean?
God will destroy all flesh with “fire from heaven�. Literally true? YES! Literal fire? :shock:
(I thought we didn’t believe in “literal (physical) fire�. Does it sound more “humane� or more “God-like� to believe in a “temporary� literal (physical) fire, then to believe in an “endless� literal (physical) fire? :? )
God is the same “yesterday, today and forever�. Is He destroying any of our flesh with "literal" (physical) fire from heaven? Or is this SPIRITUAL?
Just some questions I started asking myself.
Blessings,
Chrissie
--- End quote ---
The most enlightning things set forth in questions that we should all consider. Chrissie, I understand exactly what it is your asking and implying. To these I too agree in "like manner".
Is it not scriptural to see and not perceive? Why does it say, every eye will see Him? Why does it not say every eye will perceive Him? Can he be seen with the eye? Is the definition of faith in the things which can be seen or of Him who cannot be seen?
An "Open face" what does "that mean"? What has "face to face" to do with being like Him unless these things spoken are more revelatory in nature then informational?
Is the Truth more then the "right answer"?
I loved the way you added these Chrissie, beautifully put!
Peace
Daniel
mercie:
--- Quote from: chrissiela ---I wasn’t going to post anymore for awhile either, but I got notice of a PM so came to check that… and so read a few threads…. etc, etc, etc…. so much for will-power. :roll:
I will just say this:
What does it mean for MORTAL to “put on� immortality? What does it man for CORRUPTION to “put on� incorruption? Etc.
Yes, without Christ and HIS resurrection we are “dead� (no life in us) and “without hope� and our “faith is in vain�.
Who here has ever said otherwise?
What does the “literal return� of Christ mean? Is His coming in the spirit not a “literal" return?
What does “every eye will see Him� mean? Will they also “perceive� Him?
What does i“He will return in like manner� mean? A “cloud� received Him, right? What does that mean?
He shall see “the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory�. What does that mean?
God will destroy all flesh with “fire from heaven�. Literally true? YES! Literal fire? :shock:
(I thought we didn’t believe in “literal (physical) fire�. Does it sound more “humane� or more “God-like� to believe in a “temporary� literal (physical) fire, then to believe in an “endless� literal (physical) fire? :? )
God is the same “yesterday, today and forever�. Is He destroying any of our flesh with "literal" (physical) fire from heaven? Or is this SPIRITUAL?
Just some questions I started asking myself.
Blessings,
Chrissie
--- End quote ---
Chrissie.
Notice it Only says eye not eyes ?
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they [also] which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen
A couple of References to the eye in Job. 8)
why Eye?
Christ is the Light of the wWorld.
Mat 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
Luk 11:34 The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when [thine eye] is evil, thy body also [is] full of darkness
I hope the spirtualizing of the scriptures will not offend you.
Why Pluck out the eye? for it is Full of Darkness?
To Deny Christ are works of Darkness which scripture makes plain what these works are.
The Remainder of the scriptures you have Quoted Hopefully will be answered by the more learned.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version