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aqrinc:

Hi Mark,

The paper referenced below is a long one and very detailed. Ray did a huge study on many of the questions posted; in this and a similar thread started in the last couple days.

WHO AND WHAT IS JESUS? & WHO IS HIS FATHER? . . . Nashville Conference 2007

Excerpt from: http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4472.msg34384.html#msg34384

Heb 1:5  For unto which of the angels…

Remember we talked about the angels called, sons of God shouting for joy and appeared before God.  You know when they were talking about Job and so on.  They were sons of God, angelic beings.  “But unto which of the angels said he at any time, you are my son, this day have I BEGOTTEN you…”  Created?  No, begotten!  You may not know about this Greek word, in the Greek there is no separate word for begotten and born, same word. 

You got to be careful, when Christ said, “except you be born again”  we are not born again.  But we are begotten anew, from on high.  Some of these words are left out of the KJ.  It should be “we are begotten anew, from on high.”   You are begotten once in the flesh from our parents.  Now we are begotten anew, a new begettal from on high.  And when we are born into the kingdom of God, then we are made where our flesh and blood is turned into spiritual bodies.  We will be like God, brother of Christ, like God.  So which of the of the sons did He ever say that?  Well He said that to His Son, but He never said it to the angels. 

Heb 2:10  For it became Him, for whom are all things(speaking of Jesus), and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
v. 11  For both He that sanctifieth and they that are sanctified are all of one: for which cause He is not ashamed to call them brethren,

There it is!  Did He ever do this with the angels, in His original creation?  Back there between the heaven and the earth, when they shouted for joy.  When He put the earth in motion and started pushing it around the universe and they shouted for joy and sang?  No.  They were created beings.  We are begotten.  But remember we only have the earnest, the down payment.

Like a conception, there is not a baby until it’s born.  Am I right doctor?  You are a OBGYN?  So Dr. Carol here knows all about what I’m talking about.  When you are begotten, when there is a conception, there is no baby, yet.  Not until they start to cry, then you cut the umbilical cord, now we got a human being, born.
So we will be born.  There is a big difference between being purchased or being adopted and being born into royalty, born into the family of God. 

Jesus Christ was born of God.  I’m seeing in the scripture now, that happened when He was a human, in Mary.  We got to go through the scripture and see where He came from.  Jesus Christ never once said, I came out of my mother’s womb.  He tells us where He came from.  I can show you 10 places in scripture, where He says where He came from. Not one of them says His mother’s womb. 

george. :)

larissa4676:
Wow Mark. Thank you so much for posting the clarification. Amazing!

Larissa

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