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babylon bashing
Terry:
Well said Tammy
Terry
G. Driggs:
Excerpt from "You Fools! You Hypocrites! You Snakes!"
Meet the Real Jesus Many Hate http://bible-truths.com/fools.htm
It is possible to condemn the sinful actions and teachings of men without hating the men who commit these things. Jesus loved everyone. Jesus died for everyone. Jesus forgave everyone. Jesus forgave those who crucified Him before He expired and probably thousands of years before most of them will repent in judgment. As I have said many times, except for the grace of God, everyone of us could have been any of the world’s most evil people. We are saved in God’s grace, not by our cleverness in choosing to follow and obey God. Grace CAUSES us to obey God. The carnal mind CAUSES men to disobey God. It is that simple.
And so we expose, exhort, teach, challenge, forgive, and LOVE. That these can take the form of sarcasm, exaggeration, satire, irony, anger, and LOVE, are clearly demonstrated by the examples of our Lord.
Now then, let’s see some examples of "upbraiding" used by our Lord in preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom of God: After the High Priest asked Jesus about His disciples and teachings, Jesus said:
"‘Why are you asking Me this question? Ask those who heard me. You have some of them here. They know what I said.’ One of the soldiers standing there struck Jesus WITH HIS FIST. ‘Is THAT THE WAY to answer the High Priest?’ he demanded" (John 18:21-22, The Living Bible).
One of the guards felt Jesus was so contemptuous and out of line, that he slapped Jesus in the mouth with the palm of his hand and told Him to WATCH HIS MOUTH when speaking to the High Priest! The guard was letting Jesus know in no uncertain terms that one does not speak to such a dignified person as the High Priest with such a demeaning tone of voice!
What would you think if someone were to address the Pope with this same tone of voice as Jesus used on the High Priest? Would you too think that someone ought to slap such a person’s face for talking that way to the Pope? Well? Was our Lord too smart for His britches? Was His language and tone of voice to be condemned by a punch in the mouth? But woe be unto the servant of Jesus Christ who today would suggest that, "…because as He [Jesus] is, so are WE in this world" (I John 4:17).
Jesus told the truth. Jesus called a spade a spade. And many people thought He was a contemptuous smart aleck! He was not. It was the Truth of His words that cut them; not just the tone of His voice. However, the tone of His voice and the selection of words and analogies that He used were not only highly offensive to those to whom He spoke, but are likewise offensive to people hearing this same approach used today by God’s servants. It is unscriptural foolishness to retort that, "Well, YOU ARE NOT Jesus!" Oh really? And what happened to,
"…because AS He [Jesus] is, SO ARE WE in this world" (I John 4:17),
and
"Let this MIND be IN YOU, which was also in Christ Jesus" (Phil. 2:5)?
Jesus was much harsher than most of what I have seen here on this forum, so I think it all boils down to ones intentions and motivations for "bashing babylon". I believe if you are of the Elect then God will show you your intentions and motivations, whether they be good or evil.
Hope this helps
Peace, G.Driggs
Marky Mark:
Words that all of us must adhere to...
http://bible-truths.com/lake9.html
Remember always as we attempt to enlighten those whom God is calling, that we are NO BETTER than those whose doctrines we condemn. God loves and DIED for these heretics of the modern Church. They are precious to God—and they had better be PRECIOUS TO US, or we too will receive a great condemnation for feeling anything but LOVE TOWARD THEM! They may be, in fact, our enemies, but Christ instructs us to: "…LOVE YOUR ENEMIES"!!
Peace...Mark
daywalker:
--- Quote from: tamaralv on September 03, 2009, 03:27:44 PM ---
I don't have the right to judge him or anyone else. I pray daily for the ability not to judge.
Hope this helps,
Tammy
--- End quote ---
It's okay to judge, in fact Paul instructs us to. [I Cor 6:2-3] BUT the question is, as you alluded to-->what's your motive? What's your intentions when you judge someone? As Ray says in one of his audios [paraphrasing for time's sake]:
If you are judging out of love, like a loving parent does for his/her child, for the sake of teaching and correcting, not for sheer punishment, then I would want that kind of judgment.
If you are judging with mercy, and your goal is edifying the person you are judging, then you are judging righteously. But if you are judging with evil intentions, out of self-righteousness and pride, with the intention of lifting yourself up over the person you are condemning, then 'look out' :o:
Matthew 7:2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get.
I've been focusing on this topic in my mind over the past few days, and I think it's finally starting to set in. For awhile I didn't really get it; but now I think I am starting to get it...
Anyway, Have a Good One.
Daywalker 8)
jeetkunejimi:
No one is perfect not even the called out chosen elect. We live,we learn, we die, we learn, we are ressurected we learn, we're made immortal, we're all still learning. What will be, will be. We are merely players in a very large stage production, learn your lines stand on the 'X', and if you get an Oscar, don't for get to give the glory to the Director.
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