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The term "spiritualize away"
mercie:
--- Quote ---That was beautifully put Love_Magnified its not having the right answers (even all knowledge) its in knowing Him who is the Truth. All about knowing Him, our hope of eternal life is that very same thing.
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Amen Daniel.
Jhn 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life.
chrissiela:
Beautifully put, Daniel.
Until God opened up the scriptures to me reading them was like walking around in the dark and bumping into walls. All I knew was what others 'told me' the scriptures meant. And I wasn't sure that they were much more than fairy tales or the imaginations of men.
I had such a desire to 'see' for myself and 'know' for myself but it seemed completely unattainable to me for so many years.
It has been less than two years since I truly came to the Lord (or He came to me :wink: ) and I even KNEW that He existed. It was probably another 6 months before I really began to search and study the scriptures, which ultimately lead me straight to Him (in a very personal way). And it is now almost unimaginable to me how far He has walked with me in such a short time... after more than 30 years of waiting and praying and begging for Him to 'appear'. [-o<
He is truly AMAZING and indeed the Rock of my salvation. And as much as I may gain from the work and the study of 'others', even now, there is but ONE Teacher at whose feet I sit. AMEN!!
Blessings,
Chrissie
orion77:
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(2Co 6:16) And what agreement does a temple of God have with idols? For you are a temple of the living God, even as God said, "I will" dwell in them and "walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be My people." Lev. 26:12; Ezek. 37:27
(2Co 6:17) Because of this, "come out from among them" "and be separated," says the Lord, "and do not touch the unclean thing," and I will receive you. Isa. 52:11
(2Co 6:18) "And I will be a Father to you, and you will be sons" and daughters to Me, says the Lord Almighty. 2 Sam. 7:8, 14; Isa. 43:6
(Rom 8:35) Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword?
(Rom 8:36) Even as it has been written, "For Your sake we are killed all the day; we are counted as sheep of slaughter." Psa. 44:22
(Rom 8:37) But in all these things we more than conquer through Him loving us.
(Rom 8:38) For I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor rulers, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
(Rom 8:39) nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus, our Lord.
God bless,
Gary
Daniel:
--- Quote from: YellowStone ---LoveMagnified & Daniel,
Great responses from you both :)
Both responses align very well with the following parable which Jesus used to indicate the importance of seeking continuously.
Luk 19:13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
Luk 19:14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this [man] to reign over us.
Luk 19:15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
Luk 19:16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.
Luk 19:17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
Luk 19:18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
Luk 19:19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.
Luk 19:20 And another came, saying, Lord, behold, [here is] thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:
Luk 19:21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.
Luk 19:22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, [thou] wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:
Luk 19:23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?
Luk 19:24 And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give [it] to him that hath ten pounds.
Luk 19:25 (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)
Luk 19:26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him. [/list:u]Jesus here uses a wonderful example of not spiritualizing away the scripture. It is not enough to just read, digest and shelve scriptural knowledge. Our faith is spiritual, but it is as Daniel put it:
--- Quote from: Daniel ---To me His words are life, I find perfection even in these comparisons. These things which bear witness not only to Him in the book, but Him in us. You can watch the truth of His words around you. Take your eyes off the page and look up and discern about you. I needn't another scripture to convince me of Him. The scriptures come to life through His light. The hearing of them comes through the one who gives us ears to hear. He is our sight, our truth, and our very life. He is so many things signified in the book. The reality however is Christ in us.
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The Word became flesh and likewise our spirituality must too be earthed, for any attempt to dematerialize the spiritual (wrapping in a napkin) is pointless and in vein, for all Scripture has physical application.
But this is not to say that the promise of the Kingdom will be brought forward in this earthly age. Doing so is to totally contradict the scripture and of the promise to come.
So we must diligently and continuously seek out the truth and the promise; learn from it and then growing to maturity by living and applying all that we have learned, just as LoveMagnified mentioned:Pro 25:2 [It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.[/list:u]Anything less is spiritulizing away the scripture.
Thanks to both of you for such fine responses. :)
God is love, and love abounds everywhere.
YellowStone
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Yellow,
Where have you received the idea that what is spiritual cannot manifest itself in what is seen? What was His own required by the servant? Could it not the love or mercy to be shown to others? Or even the measure dealt every man whereby we grow in the love and the grace of God? Is not the parable of reaping what is sown?
Psalm 37:2 The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous sheweth mercy, and giveth.[/u]
For we give an account of ourselves before the Lord do we not? Proving faithful as Paul said. Good stewards Theres much in this parable.
1Peter 4:10 As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.
You can see somewhat of what Paul spoke concerning an account.
Phil 4:17 Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account.[/u]
How would these things not manifest within us? Do we not reap what we sow? God giving our increase as we walk in obedience to our Lord and becoming more fruitful in our knowledge of Him?
I see these as beautiful spiritual truths, no less a reality which should manifest in our lives. Perhaps you differ on these things and thats okay. I will leave it at that then.
Peace to you Yellow
Daniel
Daniel:
Blessings Gary, Mercie, and Chrissie. Its believing that God is amen Chrissie a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.[/u]
Ephes 1:18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,[/u]
Luke 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,[/u]
1John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.[/u]
Mathew 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, "not knowing the scriptures", nor the power of God.[/u]
1Cr 1:24... Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.[/u]
Its all Him, the inheritance of the saints
Ezekiel 44:28 And it shall be unto them for an inheritance: I am their inheritance: and ye shall give them no possession in Israel: I am their possession.[/u]
As poor yet making many rich, as having nothing but possessing all things. The blessing of the Lord maketh Rich. The treasure in our earthen vessel. All the abundance given us in Him.
Truly nothing can be better then Him. What reward can be greater then Him? God is so Good!
Peace
Daniel
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