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Our occurence in Revelation
Dave in Tenn:
Rev 2:19 "'I know your works, your love and faith and service and patient endurance, and that your latter works exceed the first.
Rev 2:20 But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols.
Rev 2:21 I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her sexual immorality.
Rev 2:22 Behold, I will throw her onto a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her works,
Rev 2:23 and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches will know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you according to your works.
Rev 2:24 But to the rest of you in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not learned what some call the deep things of Satan, to you I say, I do not lay on you any other burden.
I look at it this way, if anybody who has had a concience and the God-inspired wisdom to know that "God is Love" cannot mean "He will torture most of His creation for all eternity", then he or she has not 'learned' the depths of Satan. God has always had a remnant, and most of their names were not recorded in Scripture or history--certainly not church history. Many are called and few are chosen, but He chooses all He needs.
Ninny:
Well said, Dave!! :D
Kathy :-*
noeleena:
Hi..
.A point here would be . that the words given to John was to the church s then . & it had to do with rome . so then what would be the problem . many have not had or read any word s that we have now . will the Lord speak through those who will allow the Lord to use them . like us to day . i am not talking about.. unknown language s (( & that s not correct .)) just our normal english . does the Lord use us now . & you have to remember even then it was all spoken & handed down . not every detail was writen . yet the Lord still spoke & used many people .
So really the ?? is when the writen word we have now. is taken away will it make any difference .
What i am getting at is when we allow the Lord to use us . we speak as needed . under the athuorty of the Holy Spirit.
...noeleena...
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: noeleena on September 18, 2009, 06:40:02 AM ---Hi..
.A point here would be . that the words given to John was to the church s then . & it had to do with rome . so then what would be the problem . many have not had or read any word s that we have now . will the Lord speak through those who will allow the Lord to use them . like us to day . i am not talking about.. unknown language s (( & that s not correct .)) just our normal english . does the Lord use us now . & you have to remember even then it was all spoken & handed down . not every detail was writen . yet the Lord still spoke & used many people .
So really the ?? is when the writen word we have now. is taken away will it make any difference .
What i am getting at is when we allow the Lord to use us . we speak as needed . under the athuorty of the Holy Spirit.
...noeleena...
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Noeleena,
No one 'allows' the Lord anything...God causes all, He does not wait on anyone's permission or allowance.
Rom 9:17-18 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
Marques
aqrinc:
This idea of allowing GOD To do anything; is right out of freewill believing Christendom. Has anyone ever allowed an earthquake or hurricane to pass through their home or property?. Just a small analogy that quickly breaks down when put in context of one allowing GOD to do, as opposed to GOD Causing all things.
Isa 46:10 (GW)
From the beginning I revealed the end. From long ago I told you things that had not yet happened, saying, "My plan will stand, and I'll do everything I intended to do."
Isa 40: 21-28 (GNB)
21 Do you not know? Were you not told long ago? Have you not heard how the world began?
22 It was made by the one who sits on his throne above the earth and beyond the sky; the people below look as tiny as ants. He stretched out the sky like a curtain, like a tent in which to live.
23 He brings down powerful rulers and reduces them to nothing.
24 They are like young plants, just set out and barely rooted. When the LORD sends a wind, they dry up and blow away like straw.
25 To whom can the holy God be compared? Is there anyone else like him?
26 Look up at the sky! Who created the stars you see? The one who leads them out like an army, he knows how many there are and calls each one by name! His power is so great--- not one of them is ever missing!
27 Israel, why then do you complain that the LORD doesn't know your troubles or care if you suffer injustice?
28 Don't you know? Haven't you heard? The LORD is the everlasting God; he created all the world. He never grows tired or weary. No one understands his thoughts.
george. :)
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