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What is the point of life?
Amrhrasach:
Thank you all for your replies. I am most grateful for the information you’ve shared and your point of view.
So you know where I was coming from, and why:
In addition to receiving some recent news of someone I know going back to prison for the fourth time I also sat down and watched a documentary on the Vietnam war. Disturbing, all of it. Both made me keenly aware of my own surroundings and the blessings that God has provided my own household. Nothing elaborate by any stretch, but does it HAVE to be (?), especially after seeing the atrocities of war and thinking on the tragedies that befall so many on a daily basis in this world? Life seems so cheap to so many. And then there are those who walk this earth in such blessings of material wealth but who also have not a clue of the provider. The same folks also walk and talk with such smugness of their great personal achievements. All of it got next to me in a deeply emotional way. I felt sorry for those who have never had a chance in life. I lost my own footing in belief and trust of God’s wisdom and strategy to achieve his mark and somehow, from a shallow human standpoint, even his wisdom seemed rather foolish.
“Isa 64:4 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.
Gary
Kat:
Hi Alex,
I think I understand what you are saying, I do remember young love and how strong it is. But have you ever considered that the relationships we have in this life and especially the relationship between husband and wife, is just a shadow of what we will have with God. Maybe God gives us these strong attachments with others as sort of a slight little taste of what being one with Him is like. A mother builds an unbelievably strong bond with her child, this is a good thing, even a necessary thing. Though this child will grow up and become their own independent person and marry. This too is a good thing, but still that bond between mother and child remains. I believe it will be somewhat the samewhen we become spirit, we will still have a bond with those people we were very close to in our physical life.
I do not believe any person will be yanked into the spirit realm before they are ready. While physical human being we mature in our spiritual understanding, God puts us through a process where we come to know Him very well and I believe it is a far deeper knowing than we can gain with anyone physically. Only when He brings us to the point when we are completely ready, will He ever bring someone into this oneness with God.
I do believe that people become so accustom to this physical life and the physical things that they are experiencing, that they simply can not see beyond that right now. The spirit realm is just too hard for most of us to comprehend at this time, I know it is for me. But to say something or anything that we have now in the physical is so great that we don't even desire the spiritual, well maybe that is spoken out of ignorance. I don't think that anybody that has matured spiritually and is ready will have any hesitation at all at becoming one with God. So don't worry because it will not be something you will obtain with any regrets.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
9440geoff:
--- Quote --- Both made me keenly aware of my own surroundings and the blessings that God has provided my own household
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My sentiments also, Gary. I've just watched 'Panorama' on the BBC. It was about men from various African countries trying to get into Europe. The journey includes crossing 1000 miles of Sahara desert to get to Tripoli, and then 200 miles across the Med to reach Italy. Many of them die of heat exhaustion in the desert or drown in the Med when the overcrowded, people-smuggling boats sink. Even those who make it don't find it easy, because of the recession. There just aren't enough jobs.
To say that I feel blessed is an understatement.
Geoff
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Kat on September 14, 2009, 02:23:52 PM ---
Hi Alex,
I think I understand what you are saying, I do remember young love and how strong it is. But have you ever considered that the relationships we have in this life and especially the relationship between husband and wife, is just a shadow of what we will have with God. Maybe God gives us these strong attachments with others as sort of a slight little taste of what being one with Him is like. A mother builds an unbelievably strong bond with her child, this is a good thing, even a necessary thing. Though this child will grow up and become their own independent person and marry. This too is a good thing, but still that bond between mother and child remains. I believe it will be somewhat the samewhen we become spirit, we will still have a bond with those people we were very close to in our physical life.
I do not believe any person will be yanked into the spirit realm before they are ready. While physical human being we mature in our spiritual understanding, God puts us through a process where we come to know Him very well and I believe it is a far deeper knowing than we can gain with anyone physically. Only when He brings us to the point when we are completely ready, will He ever bring someone into this oneness with God.
I do believe that people become so accustom to this physical life and the physical things that they are experiencing, that they simply can not see beyond that right now. The spirit realm is just too hard for most of us to comprehend at this time, I know it is for me. But to say something or anything that we have now in the physical is so great that we don't even desire the spiritual, well maybe that is spoken out of ignorance. I don't think that anybody that has matured spiritually and is ready will have any hesitation at all at becoming one with God. So don't worry because it will not be something you will obtain with any regrets.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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I don't know kat. I mean i know God is with me, but i don't see God struggling through what i do. I know His Son did, and i know that He probably did some encridble suffering when He birthed wisdom and only He knows what else before but still... i mean, i'm not sitting through all these things, going through whatim going through, suffering and growing, with God like physically next to me. I don't ever hear Him talk to me, etc.. It's not that i doubt His existence, believe me my faith has never been stronger BUT i know that with the person i love on this earth, all these things are that much more real with them and so to me, the bond is almost stronger in a sense. I know im physical and carnal as a human being, but thats exactly what makes my bond with that special person, so much stronger than say with God. I Just don't understand anything He does in my life, i don't understand what He's thinking, i don't understand when He's hurting, if He does still, I don't understand where He's going, or why, i really don't understand much and so i can't RELATE ONE BIT to Him...Not saying He doesn't relate to me.. i just don't relate to Him at all. At least with my human partner, i can understand all this and relate on such a deep lever with them, one that to me is so much more real than anything i've ever felt. I know nothing is perfect with us being carnal, with us being human, but maybe thats what makes it so much more real?
I don't know, He seems so distant imo, even though He's so close. I know i'm almost contradicting myself but maybe i am that conflicted when it comes to all this. I have no problem believing in the Lord, in Jesus, the Savior of the world and all that. In fact I strongly do, but it's just my bond, my relationship, sometimes it doesn't feel real. Like right now. Like alot of the times in my life. My relationship with my friends feels more real, even though we are so carnal.
lol gl figuring out what all i just said ment, if ya understand me, props to you, if not, eh no worries. Thanks for the words of wisdom Kat. Much appreciated. Still don't know about it all though when it comes to this.
God bless,
Alex
NoviceBeliever:
Alex:
I am including this excerpt from "Esther-The Destiny of Women" in hopes that it helps. http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,5506.0.html
2 Cor 6:18 And will be to you a Father, And ye shall be to Me sons and DAUGHTERS, says the Lord Almighty.
Did He leave women out? No, “sons and daughters.” Even though sons is used more often, daughters is in there, sons and daughters. God will be a Father to His sons and daughters. God is no respecter of persons.
Gal 3:28 There can be neither Jew nor Greek, there can be neither bond nor free, there can be NO MALE AND FEMALE; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
There is no male or female, you’re all one, you’re sons and daughters. God is no respecter of persons.
Alex, we are not male or female but are complete after the resurrection. GOD is allowing us these male/female relationships to show us the qualities that we will need to be complete. It is similar to GOD showing us both good and evil, without one how would you know what the other was. NB
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