Chrissie,
How can the gathering and burning of the tares be considered a resurrection? They are gathered out of the kingdom, not into it.
Matthew 21:31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
The pharisees do not precede the publicans & sinners into the kingdom. The publicans & sinners precede and lead the pharisees into the kingdom.
Bob,
The field is the world, is it not?
To good seed are the children of the kingdom and the tares are the children of the wicked one, right?
Not exactly. :shock:
the good seed are the SONS (the word is
uihos). The Children of the kingdom are cast out. :shock: (coming back to that)
But the harvest comes at the end of the world (age) and the reapers are the angels.
He tells the angels to gather the tares first, and gather the wheat into the barn.
Both are gathered “out of the kingdom�, are they not? Is this not because both are growing together (ALL having been reconciled to God through Christ) until harvest?
If this doesn’t apply to the resurrection what does it apply to, even Ray applies this to the resurrection, does he not? In Matthew, where these verses appear, it says: “The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.�
Both are growing together but the righteousness of the kingdom cannot shine forth until the tares have been removed.
How are the tares removed? They are cast into the furnace to be “burned up�.
There is also a difference between a child/servant and a son and what does it say about “the children of the kingdom�?
Mat 8:11 And I say unto you, That
many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 8:12
But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.[/list:u]
Is this not referring to the same things?
All have been reconciled to God through Christ right… so all have been brought into the kingdom of God – as
children of God. But all things that “offend� and “them which do iniquity� have to be gathered up (or cast out)… into the furnace to be burned (or into outer darkness). The descriptions are the same, are they not?
Where else do we see weeping and gnashing of teeth? In the Lake of Fire, right?
And what does Peter tell us:
think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
1Pe 4:13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings;
that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
1Pe 4:14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you:
on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.
1Pe 4:15
But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.[/list:u]
here Peter mentions this "fiery trial" but he says “but let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, etc". Is that not the same description as those who “have their part in the Lake of Fire�? As those who “without� the gates of the city…. where there is NO NIGHT? And where are the children of the kingdom cast? Into "outter darkness" where there is "wailing and gnashing of teeth", right?
Not all have entered into the city, into the New Jerusalem, but all are in the kingdom, as I see it. However, "except
a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God".
I think I will stop here... that is why I didn't want to get into all of this. As it would take pages and pages to try and explain myself and I do not wish to cause an argument or any controversy.
Blessings,
Chrissie
Oh, and Bob... where did I say that the Pharisees go in first?
The publicans and harlots go in first (Mat 21:31).