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Eternal Life not promised?
Daniel:
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--- Quote from: Daniel ---Amen Chrissie and Deedle :lol:
Psalm 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
Gen 1:5 the darkness he called Night
1John 2:8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, "which thing" is true "in him" and "in you" because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.
1Thes 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
Yesterday (as a thousand years) or the "watch" in "the night" has past when the dead hear His voice in the "To day".
Peace
Daniel
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1Thess 5:5-ll (Paraphrased) We are not of the NIGHT, Let us not SLEEP AS others do....they that SLEEP are drunk....Let us be of the DAY, be sober and vigilant...not to wrath but to obtain salvation!.....
But WHETHER .. we wake or sleep...WE SHOULD LIVE TOGETHER...wherefore COMFORT one another......
Don't know if this fits in here but I just love this!! Got it from the Tamar study over on Mike's site.
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Amen Gena :D Theres a "play on words" on "the night" and that which is associated with it.
The Spirit of sleep given is that they would sleep and not wake and that they might indeed rejoice (in it). Paul and James adress "this kind" of rejoicing. Drunkeness is being "high minded" (thinking more highly of themselves then they ought) rather then soberly (or lowliness of mind).
Its true, Amen that whether we sleep or wake we live together with Him. Like He is holding hands with "Yesterday" (of the night) and "To day" (not of the night, but of "the day") Yet they both exist together (just in different places spiritually speaking). He stands between them.
One could be in a place where darkness (or night, or of yesterday) is PAST for them. The other who "loveth not His brother" is in darkness (of night and of yesterday) even "until now". It speaks of these things in various ways.
I agree, He is GOOD :D
Peace
Daniel
Daniel:
--- Quote from: rocky ---We all agree that the revelation of Christ is, was and will be. Then why isn't the resurrection "is" for those Christ has revealed himself to. Why do those who he has revealed himself to have to wait for the "will be", for their resurrection??
Joh 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Jesus is the resurrection. He was the resurrection, he is the resurrection, and he will be the resurrection.
Seems to me, to always be looking for a future resurrection is to deny the "is" part of Christ. He is the resurrection, to those he has revealed himself to.
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Excellent point Rocky, He IS and IS "TO COME" to all who look for Him. Studying of words in connection to what this all means would help in many areas.
Its a "lively hope". Its easy to believe in a Him who WAS, and easier to believe for Him after your dead and buried. Believing on Him who IS is much more difficult to do. The "power of God" for "the present" in the life that "now IS". Though not in "this life" only.
Peace
Daniel
chrissiela:
jerreye,
Who said the resurrection is past? How can the resurrection be past when Christ IS the resurrection? How can the resurrection be past when death has yet to be destroyed?
Chrissie
jerreye:
Chrissie,
I never said that the resurrection is past. I was stating just the opposite.
This is why I used the following passage:
2Tim 2:17
And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
The resurrection is NOT past. It hasn't happend yet. It is in the future.
Jeremy
rocky:
The earnest of spirit i think is a valid point, but I still think there is a valid point that Jesus is the resurrection. He isnt' the means to an event, called the resurrection. He is the resurrection.
Isnt' this correct????
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