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berny:
hey chrissie
thanks you explained that really good, i like the way you explained it even though i have read what ray say's sometimes it just needs explaine d in a simpler way for the penny to drop.
thanks again
berny

chrissiela:

--- Quote ---they never where seperate, they where and always where ONE.
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Yes, they are and always were ONE.  :wink:

By 'separate', I simply meant that in the beginning there was no part of God that was flesh. Christ (or the Word of God) had to come "out from" the Father (invisible holy spirit) in order to manifest Himself to his creation and be crucified.

At the time that Jesus lived, the Father was IN HIM... but the Father still existed 'outside' of Him, as well.... as He encompasses ALL things and IN HIM we (all) "live and move and have our being" ( Acts 17:28 ).

Chrissie

chrissiela:

--- Quote from: berny ---hey chrissie
thanks you explained that really good, i like the way you explained it even though i have read what ray say's sometimes it just needs explaine d in a simpler way for the penny to drop.
thanks again
berny
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Thanks berny. Glad I was able to help.

Chrissie

eutychus:

--- Quote from: chrissiela ---
--- Quote ---they never where seperate, they where and always where ONE.
--- End quote ---


Yes, they are and always were ONE.  :wink:

By 'separate', I simply meant that in the beginning there was no part of God that was flesh. Christ (or the Word of God) had to come "out from" the Father (invisible holy spirit) in order to manifest Himself to his creation and be crucified.

At the time that Jesus lived, the Father was IN HIM... but the Father still existed 'outside' of Him, as well.... as He encompasses ALL things and IN HIM we (all) "live and move and have our being" ( Acts 17:28 ).

Chrissie
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yes excellent.

try and figure out how god can have the hairs of every human being numberd :shock:


head explodes :lol:

B18bhatch:
So what does Ray mean when he writes this, can anyone explain this  to me I know they are not equal because Jesus is not in his full glory(sorry if I said it wrong) Here is what Ray writes
--- Quote ---There it is--Jesus Christ HAS A "GOD!" Paul wrote this and all of the above Scriptures AFTER Jesus Christ was resurrected and restored to His previous GLORIES in God. And in His glorified state, Jesus Christ is STILL subjected to HIS GOD! Who wants to be the first blasphemer to even suggest that God the Father "has a God?"!!! But Jesus Christ, DOES have a God! Notice the following:

Eph. 1:3: "Blessed be the God and Father OF our Lord Jesus Christ"

Col. 1:3: "We are thanking the God and Father OF our Lord Jesus Christ"

I Pet. 1:3: "Blessed be the God and Father OF our Lord Jesus Christ"

And remember that these statements concerning Jesus Christ "having a God" were made long after His resurrection and restoration back to His former glories. Today, our Lord STILL HAS A GOD! And need I repeat the fact that the God and Father of Jesus Christ DOES NOT HAVE A GOD?! And someone out there still thinks God is a equilateral trinity?


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