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Where was Paul?
Kat:
Hi Gary,
--- Quote ---In what year was Jesus crucified? (That may seem dumb, but it isn't)
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Don't hesitate to ask these questions, they are without a doubt a help to many.
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THE CHURCH OF GOD FROM OUR COMMON ERA—YEAR "0" A.D.
Actually there never was a year "0"—there was "1" B.C. and "1" A.D., but no one apparently ever thought of a year "0" for the starting point of our Common Era (anno Domini, The Year of Our Lord). But then again, Jesus was not born on what would have been year zero anyway, due to the fact that Jesus was born a few years BEFORE our A.D. or Common Era which means Christ was born B.C. or (BEFORE Christ).
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So Jesus was born a few years before A.D. which would put it on about 3-4 B.C. Therefore, if Jesus was crucified at the age of 33, it stands to reason that the year he died would actually be somewhere around 29-30 A.D. according to our present calendar. Another point I will add, it is believed that Stephen was stoned to death in 32-34 A.D. in Jerusalem and is considered the first Christian martyr.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Patrick:
An addition to what Kat has already posted.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,10047.msg79109.html#new
--- Quote from: Ray ---Some of these dates, I’ll put the exact date that I have from some of my timelines and sometimes I won’t use that, because there are various dates on some of these things. Some of them I’ll only put it a year off one way or the other.
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Christ born in 3 BC; Christ resurrected in 30 AD.
Marky Mark:
--- Quote ---33 A.D.[/b]
Saul (Paul) receives written permission from the High Priest (Sanhedrin) to search in Damascus' synagogues for those who believe Jesus is the Messiah. Saul is also given the authority to arrest and bring these believers to Jerusalem for trial and punishment. (Acts 9:1-2)
Saul, accompanied by several others, travels to Damascus. As he approaches the city a burst of light suddenly appears and causes him to fall to the ground (Acts 9:3-4). He then hears the booming voice of Jesus saying: "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?" (Acts 9:4, NIV)
Saul is struck blind and led into Damascus by his traveling companions. Three days later Jesus inspires a disciple named Ananias to visit Saul and heal him of his blindness. After he is healed Saul is baptized and receives God's Holy Spirit. (Acts 9:4-18)
Paul (Saul) (first referred to as Paul in Acts 13:9) stays in Damascus and powerfully preaches the gospel. Paul's incredible ability to prove Jesus is the Christ (Messiah) so angers Jews in the city that they conspire to kill him (Acts 9:20-23). After learning of the plot against his life, Paul flees the city at night by having Christians lower him down a gate wall using a basket! Once out of the city he travels to Arabia, where for three years he is personally taught by Jesus (Galatians 1:11-12, 15-18).
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--- Quote ---Christ born in 3 BC; Christ resurrected in 30 AD.
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Was wondering if its just me or is there some type of time line discrepancy in what Kat posted? And if Paul was taught by Jesus, was it in the flesh? Or was it in Spirit?
TIA
Mark
Amrhrasach:
--- Quote from: Horseman on October 01, 2009, 10:02:15 AM ---I’ve been reading “HOW WE GOT THE BIBLE”, Mobile conference 2007.
There is one thing that is perplexing to me and perhaps someone can help me get over this hump. My question(s): if Paul was the persecutor of the believers like none before him, then, where was Paul leading up to and during the time of Jesus’ crucifixion? Since the crucifixion occurred at Passover with over 2 million people in attendance it would seem that Paul would be right up front with the strap.
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Now I must dig even deeper. Here's why:
2 AD (aproximate) Saul (Paul) is born.
32 AD he leads the persecution against the christians and consents to Stephens death.
30 AD Jesus is crucified and resurrected.
Paul is converted after Jesus is crucified.
So, Paul is at a young man age, 26-28 or so, and has been studying since the approximate age of 10. By the age of 26-28 he is well equipped to follow the very letter of the law, as he states of himself. Not yet converted and persecuting the christians.
Now we have the time of the passover and over 2 million people are in attendance to observe this sacred time. Josephus writes of the event and Jesus being crucified. Paul surely would have been there at this time. Why isn't it written of, or maybe it is, that Paul--was--was not-- involved in crucifying our Lord.
I am stuck, here, at that point.....again.
Again it may not be important to anyone else but it is to me in order to understand why Paul was:
A-conveniently absent perhaps?
B-in another city studying? (this may be logical)
C-in another city persecuting? (this would not seem logical)
Is this something we may never know?
Gary
Amrhrasach:
--- Quote from: Horseman on October 01, 2009, 01:23:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Horseman on October 01, 2009, 10:02:15 AM ---I’ve been reading “HOW WE GOT THE BIBLE”, Mobile conference 2007.
There is one thing that is perplexing to me and perhaps someone can help me get over this hump. My question(s): if Paul was the persecutor of the believers like none before him, then, where was Paul leading up to and during the time of Jesus’ crucifixion? Since the crucifixion occurred at Passover with over 2 million people in attendance it would seem that Paul would be right up front with the strap.
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Now I must dig even deeper. Here's why:
2 AD (aproximate) Saul (Paul) is born.
32 AD he leads the persecution against the christians and consents to Stephens death.
30 AD Jesus is crucified and resurrected.
Paul is converted after Jesus is crucified.
So, Paul is at a young man age, 26-28 or so, and has been studying since the approximate age of 10. By the age of 26-28 he is well equipped to follow the very letter of the law, as he states of himself. Not yet converted and persecuting the christians.
Now we have the time of the passover and over 2 million people are in attendance to observe this sacred time. Josephus writes of the event and Jesus being crucified. Paul surely would have been there at this time. Why isn't it written of, or maybe it is, that Paul--was--was not-- involved in crucifying our Lord.[/u]
I am stuck, here, at that point.....again.
Again it may not be important to anyone else but it is to me in order to understand why Paul was:
A-conveniently absent perhaps?
B-in another city studying? (this may be logical)
C-in another city persecuting? (this would not seem logical)
Is this something we may never know?
Gary
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One correction to the above underlined.
I remember reading this many times and I believe it applies here in the sense of "spiritual" matters.
Ray says:
"And so we learn that God converted the world’s worst sinner in a matter of seconds. We learned that The Father inspired Jesus to pray: "Forgive them, for they know not what they do." We also learned that the "them" in this prayer includes the whole world, for the Scriptures plainly tell us that it is the whole world that is accountable for Christ’s Crucifixion, even though it was performed by the express foreordained will of the Father. "
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Paul (Saul) was/is as guilty as any of us in crucifying the Lord.
But, it's the physical location of Paul that I'm really asking about. May never know.
Gary
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