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bible man:
Hello saints my question is about the term outer darkness what does it mean exactly?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!!
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: bible man on October 06, 2009, 05:17:07 PM ---Hello saints my question is about the term outer darkness what does it mean exactly?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!!
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Excerpt from Lake of Fire series Part 16-D1 (http://bible-truths.com/lake16-D1.htm):
We will also discuss in detail such words and phrases as:
"fire, furnace of fire,
salted with fire,
unquenchable fire,
hell fire,
Gehenna fire,
everlasting fire,
fire on the earth,
coals of fire,
tormented in flames,
lake of fire,
baptized by fire,
SAVED by fire,
worms that die not,
gnashing of teeth,
outer darkness,
tormented for ever and ever,
unpardonable sin,
broad is the way,
depart from me I never knew you,
the damnation of hell,
eternal damnation,
the resurrection of damnation,
he that believes not shall be damned,
everlasting punishment,
everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels"
and more.
This is a huge subject that will require additional parts beyond Part D.
Hello BibleMan,
The forum is for fellowship with like-minded believers in the scriptures and Ray's teachings. Ray has not yet taught on what the scriptures testify regarding 'outer darkness', 'weeping & gnashing of teeth', etc. These will be taught in future installments within the Lake of Fire series.
That is not to say that one cannot study on their own, or with other members in another setting but we do not want to allow teaching on this forum. With an open-ended question like you have presented, that usually ends up being the case.
Many may not realize this, but in the past before Ray taught on 'Gehenna Fire', there were threads where a member simply asked 'What does Gehenna Fire mean?' There would be multiple page threads with many unscriptural assumptions regarding Gehenna Fire. And all these members claimed in their responses, 'this is what the spirit is showing me'.
Well needless to say, when Ray taught FROM SCRIPTURE that all these symbolic, fires of judgment are all 1 in the same (http://bible-truths.com/lake16-D4.htm), NONE of these same members took the time to correct or remove their comments. It was never about the edification of the body of saints, but what 'new thing' they wanted to speculate about.
Long story short, this is just an attempt to nip that kind of behavior in the bud. We don't wish to limit discussion but we have to draw the line when members attempt to cross into teaching. This thread will remain open as long as that does not happen.
Thanks,
Marques
9440geoff:
Hi bible-man,
This quote is taken fom Ray's letter to John Hagee:
No, "outer darkness" is not in a place called Hell. Those who are not allowed to sit down with Abraham in the Kingdom are cast into the darkness outside. Besides, how could Hell "fire" be so dark that one cannot see one's own hand in front of his face? Did you ever see a large fire on a dark night? It throws off a lot of light and it's easy to see your hand in front of your face.
Geoff
F@lgn0n:
So, if we don't have 'Rays teaching' on a subject, how do we ever know that what we have determined from the scriptures is correct? (I'm not trying to be arrogant or disrepectful, but I am wondering if it's possible, in this forum, to have an insight that does not reference Ray's writings at all, and still be right?)
Marky Mark:
--- Quote from: F@lgn0n on October 07, 2009, 08:38:37 AM ---So, if we don't have 'Rays teaching' on a subject, how do we ever know that what we have determined from the scriptures is correct? (I'm not trying to be arrogant or disrepectful, but I am wondering if it's possible, in this forum, to have an insight that does not reference Ray's writings at all, and still be right?)
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This may be of some assistance F@lgnOn, on said subject.Hope it helps. :)
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3614.0.html
Peace...Mark
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