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Jennie:
I hope so much that my statement about my abuse is not a bad thing to others. Lord knows I wouldn't mention it other than it is my testimony. God was with me ...it didn't feel like it... it was dark and scary. It continued on until I was 17 years old. God still knew. The beatings came then too. I was forced Valium down my throat.... me who was afraid to take a Tylenol for a headache! There is a bit of irony there. I don't understand why it happened but it did. I choose now to try to be a more compassionate friend and a kinder person to anyone I cross paths with. This didn't come overnight... it was years. Something happened one day that let me know for sure I am all right now. I saw one of the men that did this to me. We were eating at a Waffle House , went in sat down in a booth. I looked up and he was in the booth behind my husband facing me. I told Michael I had to speak to someone. I got up and went over there and asked him if he remembered me. He lowered his eyes and said yes. I felt nothing but sorrow for him because time had taken it's toll on him. He told me he had lost everything he had.... wife, children, grand-children. I shook his hand and wished him well. That is how I really knew that I am okay now with what happened. I have had the chance to talk to abused children and can truly say to them "I know how you feel". Much love to all, Jennie

p.s. it is cold and wet on my mountain today!

bunnylife:
Lauriellen,

I know that is hard as humans to understand why Father God have horrible things happen. I know by His word why. In my heart and by His spirit I am beginning to understand. Today is the 20th anniversary of my brother's murder. This year hits me harder even though I know my brother is in safe keeping with God. The person that murdered my brother in 2/2011 will get a chance at parole. I thought I had my feelings under control. There is still one issue in my mind ... why does a first degree murderer even get a chance at parole? I have called today the solicitor's office because no one really told me why. It is the law of South Carolina before 1996 for life sentences. I been hearing stuff about my brother-in-law (he committed suicide in 1994) did something (what I don't know) to affect the case. Now I am wondering if they were going to give him a death sentence. I really wouldn't want that. I understand I am no better than a murderer. It is all God and His plan. Father knows the end from the beginning. He is all sovereign. I know that Love gives. I learned that from someone else on here. Love gives but sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad (evil). However, that is because of our (human) perception of it. In God's view it's all good because it will accomplish what He sets it out to do.

We need both experience of good and evil to transform us into His image of Love. I can not explain all Hows and Whys of God. I trust Him because He is Love and what He has for me and everyone else is good. It all of Love.. all the pain, suffering, sickness, sunsets, sunrises, joy, laughter... all is of Love. He will help you to trust Him, to Love Him .. Him whom is Love. He will do this things in your and mine and everyone else lives. He is the one that does it and wills it. He knows you are hurting. He knows how much I miss my brother. He knows and He cares for He is Love. This I know.  I also know that nothing will stop Father God from completing His plans for our lives. His Will shall be done and that is a wonderful.

I have been reading about the first three centuries what Christians believe. They still believe in universalism. They delighted themselves in the Lord, in the Father. It was a time of purity, simplicity of the Gospel message. Even though they were persecuted, martyred and suffered, they were cheerful and full of joy.  

James 1:2 All joy deem it, my brethren, whenever you should be falling into various trials (experience evil),
v3 knowing that the testing of your faith is producing endurance.
v4 Now let endurance have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and unimpaired, lacking in nothing." (CLV)

In His Love,
Bunni

Marky Mark:

--- Quote from: Jennie on October 12, 2009, 02:08:19 PM ---I hope so much that my statement about my abuse is not a bad thing to others. Lord knows I wouldn't mention it other than it is my testimony. God was with me ...it didn't feel like it... it was dark and scary. It continued on until I was 17 years old. God still knew. The beatings came then too. I was forced Valium down my throat.... me who was afraid to take a Tylenol for a headache! There is a bit of irony there. I don't understand why it happened but it did. I choose now to try to be a more compassionate friend and a kinder person to anyone I cross paths with. This didn't come overnight... it was years. Something happened one day that let me know for sure I am all right now. I saw one of the men that did this to me. We were eating at a Waffle House , went in sat down in a booth. I looked up and he was in the booth behind my husband facing me. I told Michael I had to speak to someone. I got up and went over there and asked him if he remembered me. He lowered his eyes and said yes. I felt nothing but sorrow for him because time had taken it's toll on him. He told me he had lost everything he had.... wife, children, grand-children. I shook his hand and wished him well. That is how I really knew that I am okay now with what happened. I have had the chance to talk to abused children and can truly say to them "I know how you feel". Much love to all, Jennie

p.s. it is cold and wet on my mountain today!

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Jennie my sister,you are a inspiration to all of us here on how to live by what Scripture demands in Truth and Spirit.To be able to forgive your enemies in such a way is in essence what we should all strive for in this life.

It was raining on my mountain today also,until I read your post.  Thank-you.


Matthew 6:14-15 
(14) For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: (15) But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses

Matthew 5:44
(44) But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Ephesians 4:31-32
(31) Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: (32) And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.



Peace...Mark

Roy Martin:
Jennie your post about forgiveness is just awesome. I'm with Mark on this one.
 Yes you are an inspiration.

In Christ
Roy

Kat:

I've been thinking on this subject for the last few days...

Gal 1:4  who gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father,
v. 5  to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen.

Well I agree that it is a hard thing to think about all the suffering in "this present evil age," but this is what we must all pass through, this darkness/suffering, before we will be delivered into the next age.  For a few the suffering will totally end, but most will have to contend with judgment for their sins and the suffering they have caused.  No doubt there are some who have spent this life reveling in their violent nature and the suffering of others, but think of the "many stripes" they will have to endure in the next age.

Heb 10:30  For we know Him who said, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord. And again, "The LORD will judge His people."
v. 31  It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

No one escapes the suffering in this life, not the young or old, not the peacemakers or violent, not the rich or the poor and it is rendered by numerous means.  It does seem that this spiritually deprived world is designed for suffering, like this is a the beginning steps of our creation.  Now it is a horrible thing to see the suffering of the innocent, but none the less it does comes upon us all, suffering is not a respecter of persons.  Maybe we should be thankful that there are any pleasures and joy that we can obtain in this life at all.

But there is another aspect to it and that is that there is a limit to it.  Think about it, absolutely nobody can suffer endlessly in this life, even though it may seem like it in some situations, but there is a limit to what anyone can endure.  God has built into us a mechanism so that suffering only goes so far and you pass out if pain is too intense and of course the body will die if abused to much.  This to me shows a very merciful God, not the god that Christianity portraits as torturing people for all eternity... endless suffering is a sick deranged idea.  But suffering seems to be a sensation that is necessary for all to experience in this age.  But why is this pain necessary?  Maybe once we are complete in God and have entered the spiritual realm and can standing back and look at it from His perspective, we will see the reasons and understand the need for.  But as of yet we all must suffer the ultimate physical sensation in this life... death  :-\ 

This chart shows the causes of death in the US population in 2006 (which hit the 300 million mark).  I was not aware of these percentages and found these statistics a little surprising, it seems that the leading cause for death by a long shot is diseases.


--- Quote ---Causes of death for the total population in 2006: United States
[FASTSTATS - Leading Causes of Death]

Diseases (all causes combined) - 1,173,351
Diseases of heart (Malignant neoplasms), Malignant neoplasms (559,888), Cerebrovascular diseases (137,119), Chronic lower respiratory diseases (124,583), Diabetes mellitus (72,449), Alzheimer’s disease (72,432), Influenza and pneumonia (56,326), Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis (45,344), Septicemia (34,234), Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis (27,555), Essential hypertension and hypertensive renal disease (23,855), Parkinson’s disease (19,566),

Accidents (unintentional injuries) - 121,599

Intentional self-harm (suicide) - 33,300

Assault (homicide) - 18,573

All other causes (residual) - 447,805
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mercy, peace and love
Kat

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