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G. Driggs:
--- Quote from: blakparty on October 31, 2009, 06:58:03 PM --- I showed all the scripture that I could and she would believe for a week and then right after church, different person.
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Hi Rob, the first thing that came to mind when you said that were these verses.
Mat 13:16 "But blessed are your eyes because they see. And blessed are your ears because they hear.
17. What I'm about to tell you is true. Many prophets and godly people wanted to see what you see. But they didn't see it. They wanted to hear what you hear. But they didn't hear it.
18. "Listen! Here is the meaning of the story (parable) of the farmer.
19. People hear the message about the kingdom but do not understand it. Then the evil one comes. He steals what was planted in their hearts. Those people are like the seed planted on a path.
20 .Others received the seed that fell on rocky places. They are those who hear the message and at once receive it with joy.
21. But they have no roots. So they last only a short time. They quickly fall away from the faith when trouble or suffering comes because of the message.
22. Others received the seed that fell among the thorns. They are those who hear the message. But then the worries of this life and the false promises of wealth crowd it out. They keep it from producing fruit.
Mar 4:11 He told them, "The secret of God's kingdom has been given to you. But to outsiders everything is told by using stories (parables).
12. In that way, "'They will see but never know what they are seeing. They will hear but never understand. Otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'" (Isaiah 6:9,10)
13. Then Jesus said to them, "Don't you understand this story? Then how will you understand any stories of this kind?
14. The seed the farmer plants is God's message.
15. What is seed scattered on a path like? The message is planted. The people hear the message. Then Satan comes. He takes away the message that was planted in them.
16. And what is seed scattered on rocky places like? The people hear the message. At once they receive it with joy.
17. But they have no roots. So they last only a short time. They quickly fall away from the faith when trouble or suffering comes because of the message.
18. And what is seed scattered among thorns like? The people hear the message.
19. But then the worries of this life come to them. Wealth comes with its false promises. The people also long for other things. All of those are the kinds of things that crowd out the message. They keep it from producing fruit.
You prolly already know all this, but either way it is a good reminder. You planted a seed, watered it, now it is up to God, to make it grow.
Isa 61:11 The soil makes the young plant come up. A garden causes seeds to grow. In the same way, the LORD and King will make godliness grow. And all of the nations will praise him."
1Co 3:5 After all, what is Apollos? And what is Paul? We are only people who serve. We helped you to believe. The Lord has given each of us our own work to do.
6. I planted the seed. Apollos watered it. But God made it grow.
7. So the one who plants is not important. The one who waters is not important. It is God who makes things grow. He is the One who is important.
8. The one who plants and the one who waters have the same purpose. The Lord will give each of us a reward for our work.
The mass majority of humanity is not able to hear and see these truths, just those who were chosen from the foundation of the world are able.
No one told me of Bible Truths website, I was just feeling hopeless and very angry that an all powerful, all knowing God would let or cause "hell" to happen. The way Christianity put it made it seem like Satan was gonna win. So it seems after God put these thoughts and feelings in me is when the Spirit led me here. Praise God, all the glory is His! Sorry for shouting, it just makes me so happy He would show me and you and everyone here these things.
Everything and everyone is gonna be ok eventually. But man I get so impatient sometimes, I just cant wait till God is all in all, when all the garbage within all of humanity has burned away.
Isa 64:2 Be like a fire that causes twigs to burn. It also makes water boil. So come down and make yourself known to your enemies. Cause the nations to shake with fear when they see your power!
Luk 12:49 "I have come to bring fire on the earth. How I wish the fire had already started!
1Co 3:15. If anyone's work shall be burned up, he shall suffer loss. But he shall be saved, yet so as by fire.
Sorry for such a long post, but it just seems like an important thing to share and fellowship about even though it has prolly been said before many times here.
Peace Brother,
G.Driggs
aqrinc:
--- Quote ---Hi G.Driggs,
The mass majority of humanity is not able to hear and see these truths, just those who were chosen from the foundation of the world are able.
No one told me of Bible Truths website, I was just feeling hopeless and very angry that an all powerful, all knowing God would let or cause "hell" to happen. The way Christianity put it made it seem like Satan was gonna win. So it seems after God put these thoughts and feelings in me is when the Spirit led me here. Praise God, all the glory is His! Sorry for shouting, it just makes me so happy He would show me and you and everyone here these things.
Everything and everyone is gonna be ok eventually. But man I get so impatient sometimes, I just cant wait till God is all in all, when all the garbage within all of humanity has burned away.
Isa 64:2 Be like a fire that causes twigs to burn. It also makes water boil. So come down and make yourself known to your enemies. Cause the nations to shake with fear when they see your power!
Luk 12:49 "I have come to bring fire on the earth. How I wish the fire had already started!
1Co 3:15. If anyone's work shall be burned up, he shall suffer loss. But he shall be saved, yet so as by fire.
Sorry for such a long post, but it just seems like an important thing to share and fellowship about even though it has prolly been said before many times here.
Peace Brother,
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G.Driggs
Very well put together, GOD gives to us as we can bear, in learning and testing. IS GOD GREAT OR IS HE GREATEST.
Joh 3:14-15 (MKJV)
14 But even as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
15 so that whosoever (Who-So-Ever= Whoever Whenever) believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting (Eonian) life.
Joh 3:16-21 (CLV)
16 For thus God loves the world, so that He gives His only-begotten Son, that everyone who is believing in Him should not be perishing, but may be having life eonian."
17 For God does not dispatch His Son into the world that He should be judging the world, but that the world may be saved through Him."
18 He who is believing in Him is not being judged; yet he who is not believing has been judged already, for he has not believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God."
19 Now this is the judging: that the light has come into the world, and men love the darkness rather than the light, for their acts were wicked."
20 For everyone who is committing bad things is hating the light and is not coming to the light, lest his acts may be exposed."
21 Now he who is doing the truth is coming to the light that his acts may be made manifest, for they have been wrought in God."
Jesus Christ Is Lord, To The Glory Of GOD our Father.
george. ;D
arion:
Once I understood the truth...that God will have all men to be saved and that eventually He will save all men I began to relax about some of these things. It's much better to go through the lake of fire now than later but it is God who works within us both to will and to do of his good pleasure. If they reject the message I leave them alone as God has not yet broken the fallow ground of their hearts to receive his truths. I'm on quite a few different forums and I share some basic truths when appropriate and provide a link back to this place. Most will ignore it but some do come here and are moved by the teachings. We plant the seed and God opens the eyes of others when and as he wills. I found out that once I understood that God isn't going to torture anyone in real fire for eternity that I could back off a bit and quit being so obnoxious with people. The pressure to witness, do this that and the other thing is now gone. Not to many years ago I would of rejected these truths and call Ray and all you fine people heretics. Now I've been changed but all the haranging in the world wouldn't have gotten me to see these truths. A blind man really is blind until the Lord removes the scales from the eyes. It's enough to know that eventually all will be made right and that makes me free to go on and share when God moves and to leave the results up to him.
G. Driggs:
--- Quote from: Arion on November 06, 2009, 05:05:04 PM ---Once I understood the truth...that God will have all men to be saved and that eventually He will save all men I began to relax about some of these things. It's much better to go through the lake of fire now than later but it is God who works within us both to will and to do of his good pleasure. If they reject the message I leave them alone as God has not yet broken the fallow ground of their hearts to receive his truths. I'm on quite a few different forums and I share some basic truths when appropriate and provide a link back to this place. Most will ignore it but some do come here and are moved by the teachings. We plant the seed and God opens the eyes of others when and as he wills. I found out that once I understood that God isn't going to torture anyone in real fire for eternity that I could back off a bit and quit being so obnoxious with people. The pressure to witness, do this that and the other thing is now gone. Not to many years ago I would of rejected these truths and call Ray and all you fine people heretics. Now I've been changed but all the haranging in the world wouldn't have gotten me to see these truths. A blind man really is blind until the Lord removes the scales from the eyes. It's enough to know that eventually all will be made right and that makes me free to go on and share when God moves and to leave the results up to him.
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I know what you mean Arion. For the first year and a half after coming into the knowledge of Truth, I thought I had to tell the whole world, but my motives were all wrong. I was seeking persecution, and glory, in hope of securing my salvation, but hadnt realized that all I had to do was live a godly life (through Christ Who gives me strength), not in word only but in deed as well (walk the talk), and quite worrying about witnessing. By living a godly life, hating and withdrawing from evil, and loving and obeying God, then the world will hate me automatically. Wanting persecution or glory or the hate of the world should not be a motivator. I cannot get my own glory or try to justify myself, or even save myself, that is God's job. I was very excited and relieved when I first heard and saw this. Just rest in God and let Him do His work, it burns, but it is worth it.
Peace, G.Driggs
blakparty:
Yo! Great post everyone. That was the reason I stopped telling her about it because I feel as though that God is telling me to "let it grow" so I don't say to much anymore about it. Yall have confirmed that through all your posts. I love that I am so bless to know, believe, and live the truth and it took me three years to really believe and another two years to understand. I still feel for people that don't know the truth and have mercy for them even the ones that have done me wrong recently in which I won't get into because I don't want to look like I am self righteous but anyway I love you guys (and gals) and I pray one day that I could meet some of you someday and one day be able to see yall at a conference. I thank God for you, Love in Christ, Rob(blakparty)
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