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shaine:
Greetings,

What do you guys think about veganism?

My wife brought this issue to my attention and advocated for us to become vegans. Now, I love meat and have never thought twice about eating it, but the things that she told me about how these animals were treated was disturbing to say the least.

As Christians,should we participate in a practice that ,for the most part, completely disregards the ethical treatment of animals?

If you are curious to see what I am talking about, PETA has plenty of information and videos.

Comments are welcome!

-Shaine


P.S.- I personally would still like to continue to eat meat, just not from animals that are raised inhumanely.

Dave in Tenn:
My main problem with veganism is that it is an -ism.  It's an ideology.  I run from ideologues almost as fast as from religionists.  PETA, for the most part, is chock full of Ideologues.  They are not so much interested in presenting the rounded truth as in convincing you to follow their way.  Whatever works to that end, they will use. 

Scripture contains a lot of commandments, permissions, and prohibitions concerning diet.  As a believer living under the New Covenant, I know that the Apostles (and Paul in particular) had a lot to say about how diet, food, and drink related to living the deep things of God.  They use food and drink as 'symbols' and examples of living by grace and faith and love as much or more than they tell us by way of regulation what we should eat.   Study those, and decide for yourself in the meantime what diet works for your concience, health, and economy.  I'll give you the short answer...you can eat whatever you want.  A sovereign God retains the right to convince you to 'want' to eat right, and for all the right reasons.

What you are NOT allowed to do is to place your diet over the sovereignty of God by turning it into a religion or religious excercise; to become self-righteous or begin to believe that you are made Holy by what you do or do not eat; or insist that your concience, health and economy should determine MY actions.   :) 

You want scripture, I got it.   :)

I hope that helps a little.  I doubt it helps a whole lot.   :D 

Ninny:
Dave! What a good answer! I read this last night and after having been a vegetarian for about 15 years,for mostly all the wrong reasons I didn't know how to answer this in a good way! I discovered the world of vegetarianism..around 1973 while studying with the Seventh Day Adventist church. and easily adopted the lifestyle because I thought it was what God wanted or even commanded! I didn't join the church until around 1976 and it was kind of funny that when I joined the church the pastor said, "You were already an Adventist before you joined the church!" That's mainly because they didn't have to "clean me up" before I could join! :o

Some churches are so identified by their lifestyle that you must conform to this to be a part of the group! I guess this is the purpose for all groups of people..but you just have to examine your motives and be honest with God as to why you do what you do!

In the Adventist church you have those who are strict vegans and those like me who were laco-ovo vegetarians using eggs and milk..talk about splitting hairs!! you could feel the scorn of the vegans when they knew you used eggs and milk!! yeouch!! I even knew people who wouldn't even EAT from a pan that had ever had meat cooked in it.. :-\ It had little to do with the treatment of animals..some, but little..mainly it was an adherence to the dietary laws in the OT..

So we all just have to examine our motives and don't expect that just because you choose it.. everyone else will see your point of view...do everything you do to glorify the Father and never let your left hand know what your right hand is doing! Do everything as unto God and not unto men! Be healthy!!  ;)  :D
Kathy ;)

cherokee:
Good posts Dave and Kathy,  ;)

Shaine,
I don't know about where you live, but here in Ky and in Ohio there are small meat processing plants where the animals are treated humanly. There are even some where you can go pick out the animal you want and see how they are treated. Hope this helps.

Blessings,
Suzie

shaine:
yeah, my wife and I are looking into where we can buy humanely raised meat.

It's not so much the health benefits that concerns me, it's the actual treatment of the animal itself while it is alive.

Balaam and his donkey comes to mind when I think about this, strangely.

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