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Tried in fire
cjwood:
--- Quote from: Kat on November 23, 2009, 08:27:58 AM ---Here are a few excerpts where Ray has mentioned what is accomplished with this refiners fire.
We are saved by grace through faith (Eph. 2:08). However, that does not purge us from all our filthy thoughts and deeds. No, there is more. There is also a consuming FIRE that God uses on us:
If any man’s work shall be BURNED, he shall SUFFER LOSS; but [pay close attention to this BIG BUT] BUT HE HIMSELF [the one who had his works burned and consumed in God’s consuming fire] SHALL BE SAVED [What will save him?], yet so AS BY FIRE" (I Cor. 3:11-15)!!!
Ah dear readers, can we begin to understand the workings of God?
God consumes with fire, the wood, hay and stubble in our lives. The things that don’t deserve to continue. But he REFINES the gold, silver, and precious stones (those doctrines and godly character traits of God’s spirit that abide the fire). It is figurative language, it is an analogy, it is a parable, it is metaphorical (where one thing is called another thing). Our lives have either qualities of character (which are likened to gold and precious stones, things of value to refine and retain), or gross lacks in character (which are likened to wood, hay, and stubble and which are not worthy to retain or preserve).
These things MUST DIE. This purging is the SECOND DEATH. And whether the person God subjects to His consuming fire has many good qualities or none, the person himself shall be purged, purified, and SAVED BY GOD’S ALL-CONSUMING SPIRITUAL FIRE!!! We just read it in God’s Holy Word. How can any deny it? Every person who has ever lived will be subjected to the cleaning fire of God’s spirit.
Gold represents the highest doctrines of spiritual understanding such as the Love of God and the Sovereignty of God, and salvation of all.
One cannot wash away the impurities of the carnal mind any more than one can wash away the impurities in gold ore by water. It takes power, and heat, and the molecular separating qualities of fire to purify gold ore. And likewise, water has little effect on eliminating wood, straw, and stubble. But put fire to this same wood, straw, and stubble, and it will be obliterated, annihilated, eradicated, and exterminated.
This is the lesson we are to learn from God’s spiritual fire. Spiritual fire will purify good qualities to total perfection but will obliterate character flaws to total extinction. And so it is that God uses spiritual fire to produce the greatest possible good, not to cause the severest possible pain and torture.
Concluding Mal. 3, verse 3:
"that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness."
It is this "offering in RIGHTEOUSNESS" that the "kings of the earth [we, the chosen elect few, ARE the ‘kings of the earth, Rev. 5:10] do bring their glory and honor [‘an offering in righteousness’] into it [New Jerusalem out of Heaven]" (Rev. 21:24).
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kat,
thanks for bringing these to the thread. these things which ray writes about, echoed from the Scriptures, are such prime portions to meditate on.
claudia
daywalker:
--- Quote from: gallenwalsh on November 23, 2009, 06:47:13 AM ---Just looking for a general concensus. As the statement goes: Every man shall be tried to see what manner of work he is, whether it is of gold wood straw or stubble. If any be found of gold he shall receive a reward. Truly though, having passed through the lake, as I know some of you truly have, and know it. Any gold out there ? I myself have found there is not a trial I cannot fail, no good thing in me, if pushed long and hard enough I will always fail,.all is stubble,yet I am still alive, at this moment in time any way.Any comments on what the true meaning of this verse actually means will greatly appreciated.
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Proverbs 24:16 For the righteous one shall fall seven times and still rise…
It matters not that you fall, or how many times you fall, but rather do you rise up again???
Daywalker 8)
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