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mharrell08:

--- Quote from: Lupac on December 05, 2009, 04:15:16 PM ---I guess I just need some direction in my life. My parents are both reformed Presbyterians. (I'm only 18) I've tried talking to them about universal salvation, and other things. They don't seem to be very receptive. (And I always want their approval on everything. Something I'm not always going to get.) I guess I need to stop going to church, but that would really anger them. I'm going to be moving out next year, so I figured I'll stop then. What do you think? Is there anyone here that can help me, or tell me what I need to do?
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Hello Lupac,

When I was a teen living with my parents, I didn't want to go to church with them either. I didn't know any scriptural truths, I just didn't want to go with them. I wasn't very respectful when I did go, just went to sleep in the pews. My mom didn't like that at all and let me know about it. So I tried my best to stay awake and would read my bible.

We are to honor our parents [Ex 20:12, Eph 6:1, Col 3:20] and obey them. Does that mean you renounce the Truth to please them? No Way...but you do not cause them unneeded grief either. Like my mother told me: When you move out and pay your own bills, you can do what you want.

Display the mind of Christ in your attitude and respectfulness...that will go a longer way with them instead of rebelling and stewing at home. You only have a year left...


Marques

Ninny:
Good, sound advice Marques, I second that!  :)
Kathy :)

soberxp:
Hello Lupac,



--- Quote from: Lupac on December 05, 2009, 11:04:47 AM ---Hi! I joined this forum because of this very question. Is it okay if I post here instead of making a new topic? I'm not sure how to know if I've fallen, or left my "first love". (I'm not even quite sure what my "first love" is.)

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"first love"
1.when you were child,below 5 or 10 years of age,you don't know what's hate or human's nature at birth is good.
2.Usually,your first love must be love Parents.
3.pure love,you love your friends or girlfriend OR boyfriend

to me,my first love is love Parents.

Kat:

Our 'first love' is talking about Jesus Christ this is when we first understand who God really is.  This usually happens early in our church life, though our spiritual eyes are not yet opened, we do realize that Christ is the Savior and we sincerely want to follow Him.  But all who have this first love will find it is grounded in the flesh, because they are still carnal.  Therefore we all will fall away one way or another.  Those that stay in the church turn their love of God into serving the doctrines of man.  But some do not stay in the church and go back out into the world.  But being carnal we really can't help but lose our first love for Christ.   

Mat 22:14  For many are called, but few chosen.

So you see "many are called" into the church, this is your first love.  To be chosen you are called, fall away from your first love and then God drags you to Him.

John 6:44  No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

But none of this is happen chance it is all preordained to happen just as it does.

Eph 1:4  just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,

mercy, peace and love
Kat

Lupac:
I... I just want to do the right thing. I haven't said anything to my parents about church. I just wanted you opinion. Thanks.

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