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What do you believe? Why do you believe it?
LiberatedEagle:
--- Quote from: Samson on December 03, 2009, 01:53:22 PM ---
So, the point of all this above is that if someone doesn't think your behaving like a Christian, all the concise and thorough explanation doesn't matter to them. Secondly, if they didn't accept or understand this explanation and didn't ask further questions regarding your beliefs, there's no point in continuing, it's Spiritually fruitless.
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Amen to that!
Deborah-Leigh:
Here is another one....for mature readers only!
What do you believe?
I believe Ray Smith is one of God's manifested sons.
Ray who? What...where...? WHY? Oh yes....WHY do you believe that? How dare you! That is blasphemy! Why do you believe that?
Because I can!.... :)
...but ...but why...who...where....what....Ray Smith...Who is Ray Smith....Why Ray Smith...he is not GOD....
No. He is not. He is a son of God just like ....who...what...where.... ;D :) :-*
Arc
rockrdude:
Wow.. Wonderful but loaded question!
I believe that Jesus is the Savior of ALL.. The WHOLE world. I believe that ALL shall be saved. God is sovereign, and this is HIS will.
I believe that God is a winner even though the 'church' presents God as a big time loser and a total failure. According to the 'church':
He created "Lucifer" only to have him rebel and become Satan. Then God created a perfect world only to have it become corrupt because of sin. Then He chose a people to be His own, only to have them abandon Him for other gods. Then He sent His Son Jesus to be our Savior but He failed in His mission when He only managed to save a few instead of the whole world. And then He started the 'church' which also went seriously off course, except of course for us 15 southern baptist Church of Christ Lutheran pentecostal Mennonites.
One BIG failure after another!
And yet I believe.. No wait.. I KNOW that God is anything but a failure!
I believe that Satan's power to corrupt is NOT greater than the saving power of Christ Jesus, but the blind church leads the blind into greater deception until God removes the blindness from their eyes. Someday ALL will know the truth about our VICTORIOUS God who LOVES us ALL.
As for how I present this to others, it depends on the situation and the person.
For sure this one verse baffles the Christian whose eyes are still closed, and yet it gives hope to so many who do not yet know Jesus at all:
1 Tim 4:10 For therefore we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those that believe.
I could go on here, but I'm looking forward to seeing what the rest of you have to share. :)
CEO:
Marques
Thanks for bringing up this thread. I will try to give my reply to my children when they are in for Christmas so they can see a little more of why I go to the conferences of the "Ray Smith guy."
I believe God is the sovereign Father of our Lord and creator Jesus Christ.
God gave us the scriptures, God's written word, to tell us what we need to know at this time. Bibles are translations of these scriptures, sometimes mistranslations occur and therefore misrepresent scripture. The original scriptures are inerrant.
Genesis 1:27 sums up the ultimate purpose for the creation of this entire universe and everything in it. Most bible translations get it wrong, but when correctly translated and understood this verse says :
'So God is creating man in His own image,
in the image of God He creates him;
male and female he creates them.'
God is making us God.
The entire process of our lives, the highs and the lows, the succeses and the failures, tears of hurt and tears of joy and of love, all that is, is for this ultimate goal. We are on a journey and the destination is beyond our wildest imaginations. Even when we get there it keeps getting better!!!!!-' because of the incease of his kingdom there shall be NO end!' Ever been madly in love?
Think of that rare time of being consumed with the euphoria and positive power of that super sweet world-stand-still emotion of being completely in heartpounding love-now you are lucky enough to have a glimpse of God, because GOD is LOVE!!! Eyes have not seen and hearts have not imagined what God has in store for us. The HIGH is so high that nothing else matters, compared to our ultimate destiny everything else is miniscule.
God tells us these things, God reveals these truths a little at a time as we can handle them, to us. He tells us as much as we need to know, when we need to know it. All our struggles are for our own benefit. God tailors each life to that purpose of creating man into God. Each little truth discovered is a victory,an excitement, a ten pound trout, a game winning shot, a revelation, another step in this truly important thing we call LIFE.
GOD is sovereign, that is all knowing all powerful all spirit all love all truth ALL and he made us for a reason WE ARE BECOMING THE PINNACLE OF CREATION...
This is what i believe because God has shown it to me through inspired scripture and of the indwelling spirit of love and truth and understanding of God.
Askseeknock and exult in the joy of His creation
Charles O
Akira329:
I believe in the salvation of all mankind. All who ever lived and all who will live.
When asked what do I believe I usually reply, “Believe about what?”
(really trying to be simple!!!!)
Also when talking to people about what I believe we usually never make it past why I don’t attend “church”.
In that respect I usually give them these scriptures to ponder over:
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come forth, my people, out of her, that ye have no fellowship with her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues:
Then I get this scripture in response:
Heb 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together…………
Then I respond:
1Co 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
2Co 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
Pretty strong considering the conversation usually ends at this point.
If someone sincere asks I usually take over the conversation by just spewing out all my beliefs at once!!! LOL. I guess I too excited when someone really wants to know!!
If that happens then the topic of hell becomes the focus.
What’s even more interesting is that most Christians don’t believe in or understand hell’s existence but they preach it anyway. What is up with that????
Before I stumbled upon bible truths site I pondered hell for a long time and it just didn’t work in my mind. Well when I listened to a radio program called the bible answer man (Hank Hanegraaff) He said this about hell:
Not a direct quote:
“Hell has different degrees of punishment.”
His scriptural proof was:
1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
It still didn’t make any sense??? He never explained it like it I was reading it, SAVED BY FIRE!!!!
This scripture is a mainstay for me!! I adore it so much!!! When I finally understood this verse I knew about all the mentions of fire in old and new testaments!! To show this to someone is a joy to me.
God truly heals by fire!!! Seriously he does!!! LOL ;D
Antaiwan
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