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alchemist:

--- Quote from: eutychus ---its said the magi where alchemist.
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there's a lot about alchemy they say.Some say moses sister was an alchemist

Daniel:
I understand the controversy, Paul even used Mary as an allegory somewhere having the "light of the gospel". As far as I can see him using her was in relation to a woman under the law to redeem those under it.

It was said of her, "that a sword would peirce her own soul, that the thoughts of many hearts be revealed

Shes used as a picture though she was who she was after the flesh, reason for her not knowing Joseph (not to be born of flesh for our comparison)

This is why I believe (set up this way) in the law it speaks of passing the inheritance along the "male side" of things. Moses was inquired of God concerning two (daughters) which had "no brothers". God allowed that it could come unto the daughters under exception which (after the flesh) brought Mary right to be included in the geneology after the flesh (I'm thinking). Although now, these things be of no value (as the epistles write) because we are to see them after the spirit and no longer after the flesh as they were intended.

Paul doesn't mention the virgin birth, He had "the Light" of the gospel expounding the spiritual truths contained therein. Thats how I see it anyway.

See the "one" being made a "type" of "the many" in Mary?

Isaiah 62:5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.


Peace

Daniel

alchemist:

--- Quote from: Daniel ---I understand the controversy, Paul even used Mary as an allegory somewhere having the "light of the gospel". As far as I can see him using her was in relation to a woman under the law to redeem those under it.

It was said of her, "that a sword would peirce her own soul, that the thoughts of many hearts be revealed

Shes used as a picture though she was who she was after the flesh, reason for her not knowing Joseph (not to be born of flesh for our comparison)

This is why I believe (set up this way) in the law it speaks of passing the inheritance along the "male side" of things. Moses was inquired of God concerning two (daughters) which had "no brothers". God allowed that it could come unto the daughters under exception which (after the flesh) brought Mary right to be included in the geneology after the flesh (I'm thinking). Although now, these things be of no value (as the epistles write) because we are to see them after the spirit and no longer after the flesh as they were intended.

Paul doesn't mention the virgin birth, He had "the Light" of the gospel expounding the spiritual truths contained therein. Thats how I see it anyway.

See the "one" being made a "type" of "the many" in Mary?

Isaiah 62:5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.


Peace

Daniel
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I don't disagree with your opinion on paul you maybe right.Although you'd think it be mentioned somewhere else.

Youth version:
5For a young man doth marry a virgin, Thy Builders do marry thee, With the joy of a bridegroom over a bride, Rejoice over thee doth thy God.

I don't see how this applies to this topic remember virgin in old times also ment ummarried.

And further more how do you explainMark 3:21 about fis family saying he's beside himself as if nothing special ever happened in the past.

eutychus:

--- Quote from: alchemist ---
--- Quote from: eutychus ---its said the magi where alchemist.
--- End quote ---


there's a lot about alchemy they say.Some say moses sister was an alchemist
--- End quote ---




do you know anything about clear gold? white powder? manna? :wink:

alchemist:

--- Quote from: eutychus ---
--- Quote from: alchemist ---
--- Quote from: eutychus ---its said the magi where alchemist.
--- End quote ---


there's a lot about alchemy they say.Some say moses sister was an alchemist
--- End quote ---





do you know anything about clear gold? white powder? manna? :wink:
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I've went pretty deap into alchemy but some stuffs kinda fuzzy since there's a lot and I haven't looked into it that much lately,but yeah I know some about that stuff and lets try and make this thread stay on topic.Don't want to slip into alchemy.

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