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Roy Martin:
I've been giving a lot of thought to Rays recent transcript about becoming what we think on.
This fits me all too well because I see the evil of this world, and I hate it, and have been dwelling on it way too much with thoughts that I should be doing something about it by fighting back in some way,if nothing but informing people of whats going on, but I'm starting to see that perhaps I've been wrong. Many times I have considered joining a militia. I have so much anger in me towards all the deception and evil, and I don't like it anymore. It hardens my heart. I don't like that, but I just can't seem to elude these thoughts. Everywhere I look; evil and deception stares me in the face tempting me to try to beat the crap out of it. I don't know what to think about all of this.
Jesus said," he who lives by the sword dies by the sword." Aren't we also told to expose evil? We are also told not to worry about rumors of war, etc. Well I don't worry, but I'm definitely confused and would take up the a sword in a heart beat if it came to that. I want to dwell on good things, see good in all things, be humble and always have a good thing to say, but this fight thing inside of me just won't let go, and I don't like it, but yet I feel its there for a reason. I often wonder exactly why the world will hate us and want to kill us.I know about Babylon will hate us, but kill us? Or maybe kill isn't the right word in the scripture. None the less I can't get rid of this feeling that I should be fighting and doing something to protect children that die each day, and many other things I won't go into. Why can't I rid myself of these feelings and thoughts when I want to think on other things. Sure! these things of the world are temporary, and all by and for God. I want to just let it go. I really do.
Thank you for letting me share the fight I'm fighting. I am constantly asking God to change me, and give me a new heart.
The battles always ends with a new one taking its place going in circles that makes me dizzy.
I'm very tired of fighting. I just want to rest for a while.
Peace
Roy
Linny:
Oh Roy! You and my dear husband are exactly in the same place right now. You should chat. Perhaps you could help one another through it.
He oftentimes seems tortured by all he sees going on and the people who are harmed by it.
I used to make fun of him by saying that his cape had just hit me in the eye. I called him "Captain Fair" you see and he knew I meant his superhero cape was flying in the wind, big time!
As frustrating as it is to have to live in this world and endure the ridiculousness of it, I personally treat all this eye opening knowledge the same way as Bible Truth knowledge. If it comes up and if I am asked or feel led by God to speak up, I do so. But most the time, I walk away or shut up. And I hit delete so much during the day of the hundreds of emails I receive filled with worldly crapola.
Breathe deeply. It is all of God and it will all be resolved! Rest in the Lord! ;D
soberxp:
Roy
please be sober for a while,rumors of war?? I only know afghanistan,dont know if you want go there.
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Roy Martin on December 09, 2009, 08:16:53 AM ---I've been giving a lot of thought to Rays recent transcript about becoming what we think on.
This fits me all too well because I see the evil of this world, and I hate it, and have been dwelling on it way too much with thoughts that I should be doing something about it by fighting back in some way,if nothing but informing people of whats going on, but I'm starting to see that perhaps I've been wrong. Many times I have considered joining a militia. I have so much anger in me towards all the deception and evil, and I don't like it anymore. It hardens my heart. I don't like that, but I just can't seem to elude these thoughts. Everywhere I look; evil and deception stares me in the face tempting me to try to beat the crap out of it. I don't know what to think about all of this.
Jesus said," he who lives by the sword dies by the sword." Aren't we also told to expose evil? We are also told not to worry about rumors of war, etc. Well I don't worry, but I'm definitely confused and would take up the a sword in a heart beat if it came to that. I want to dwell on good things, see good in all things, be humble and always have a good thing to say, but this fight thing inside of me just won't let go, and I don't like it, but yet I feel its there for a reason. I often wonder exactly why the world will hate us and want to kill us.I know about Babylon will hate us, but kill us? Or maybe kill isn't the right word in the scripture. None the less I can't get rid of this feeling that I should be fighting and doing something to protect children that die each day, and many other things I won't go into. Why can't I rid myself of these feelings and thoughts when I want to think on other things. Sure! these things of the world are temporary, and all by and for God. I want to just let it go. I really do.
Thank you for letting me share the fight I'm fighting. I am constantly asking God to change me, and give me a new heart.
The battles always ends with a new one taking its place going in circles that makes me dizzy.
I'm very tired of fighting. I just want to rest for a while.
Peace
Roy
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Hello Roy,
As you know, all the evil & wickedness will come to an end one day. But seeing it grow worse and worse makes that day seem so far away!
The more & more we dwell in the now, the physical/carnality, the more & more we become upset. And the scriptures testify that we are to 'abhor evil' [Rom 12:9], but that is not the end of the Lord's counsel. We are to have the 'mind of Christ' and think on those things which are virtuous [Phil 4:8] which includes the reconciliation of the world.
We are all experiencing the evil in this age to humble us [Ecc 1:13]...it is humbling as you note to want to just FIX these things we see, but can't. The human race suffers from a carnal mind & heart...no one other than Christ can fix that. That is humbling but it is meant to build our trust in Him, to bring us to rely soley on Him for all things.
Peace in mind & heart is one of the greatest virtues the Lord can give...but again, He must GIVE it. I don't know if you necessarily feel like it, but this is HOW the Lord brings us closer to Him.
Heb 12:5-7 ...My son [& daughter...2 Cor 6:18], despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Though I am certainly not happy with anyone being distraught, I am exceedingly glad to know the Lord is bringing a fellow brethren closer to Him. Again, think on those things that are of virtue, all glory to God.
Hope this helps,
Marques
Kat:
Roy you want to change the world, but in this age the world is what it is and can not be changed, not until the Lord hails in the new age. You know the Scripture in Ecclesiastes.
Ecc 1:13 I applied my heart to inquiring and exploring by wisdom concerning all that is done under the heavens: it is an experience of evil Elohim has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it.
v. 14 I saw all the deeds that are done under the sun, And behold, the whole is vanity and a grazing on wind.
Those that are chosen to have their eyes opened to the truth are an exception to the rule now. At this time God is just taking a few and cleaning them up and preparing them to serve Him in bringing the whole world to righteousness. Right now He is shaping the Elect into His image and that's what we need to be concerned with, getting ourselves right before God.
Isa 1:16 "Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean;
Put away the evil of your doings from before My eyes.
Cease to do evil,
Isa 1:17 Learn to do good;
Seek justice,
Rebuke the oppressor;
Defend the fatherless,
Plead for the widow.
For now we need to overcome the hate inside us and strive to live our lives showing love and kindness, as Jesus said...
Mat 5:44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
v. 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
Eph 4:22 that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts,
v. 23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind,
v. 24 and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.
If we are full of hate for the world now, then maybe we would not be the best to teach them righteousness later.
Eze 36:26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.
v. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.
v. 28 Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God.
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:
Fear God and keep His commandments,
For this is man's all.
Ecc 12:14 For God will bring every work into judgment,
Including every secret thing,
Whether good or evil.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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