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Kat:

Hi Lupac,

Jude 1:6 Besides, messengers who keep not their own sovereignty, but leave their own habitation, He has kept in imperceptible bonds under gloom for the judging of the great day." (CLV)

imperceptible - not perceptible; esp : too slight to be perceived. (Merriam-Webster)

http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2657.0.html ---

I have answered this question many times. "Aidios" assuredly DOES NOT mean "eternal." It means imperceptible or invisable.  It has two elements "A" = not, and "idios" = see or perceive. Hence "not see or not perceive."  What can BE seen in creation attests to what CANNOT BE SEEN in God's achievements.  The bonds of the angels are not visible and literal physical chains, but "imperceptible" chains. It is very similar to the word "h - ades," which is also un perceive, hence unseen or imperceptible.

God be with you,
Ray

Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Lupac
Kathy brought the best answer quoting Ray and not only that, but notice how Ray’s answer is backed by Scripture and a second witness. Ref:

           TWELVE GOD-GIVEN TRUTHS TO UNDERSTAND HIS WORD
                                 TRUTH NUMBER 6
  [A] "…that in the mouth of TWO OR THREE WITNESSES every word may be established" (Matt. 18:16).
   "…In the mouth of TWO OR THREE WITNESSES shall every word be established" (II Cor. 13:1).
  [C] "And I will give power unto my TWO WITNESSES…" (Rev. 11:3). Unquote…

Ray applies the above God given Truth to not only understand but also to irrefutably establish, pronounce, report and expound the truth about the word "Aidios"
Ray teaches that quote : We are to have at least a second witness to establish a Scriptural truth or doctrine.

So what is the second witness to Jude 1 : 6?  Notice how Ray replies in the e-mail Kat posted. Notice how Ray’s answer is backed by Scripture.

Rom 1:20  For since the creation of the world his invisible attributes-his eternal power and divine nature-have been understood and observed by what he made, so that people are without excuse.

If you apply the second witness principle to determine what the correct, true, rightly divided  meaning is for the word “Aidios” perhaps you can see how Rom 1 :20 reveals that the Greek  Strongs concordance TRANSLATION for the word "Aidios"   is NOT correct.  

The Greek word “Aidios”  appears only twice throughout the Scriptures so the second witness is clear and the meaning is established as Ray irrefutably expounds.  :)

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