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gallenwalsh

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Melchidezek
« on: December 12, 2009, 11:56:53 PM »

Was Melchizedek literally Christ? Or a type of Christ ? If he had no Mother or Father, literally, he had to be. But then again he appeared as flesh to Abraham and he( Abraham ) paid a tithe to him, was he flesh before being born of Mary. Gets a little confusing. Any comments appreciated.
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mharrell08

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Re: Melchidezek
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2009, 12:25:23 AM »

Was Melchizedek literally Christ? Or a type of Christ ? If he had no Mother or Father, literally, he had to be. But then again he appeared as flesh to Abraham and he( Abraham ) paid a tithe to him, was he flesh before being born of Mary. Gets a little confusing. Any comments appreciated.


Hello Gallenwalsh,

Here a few email replies from Ray concerning tithing but touch on Melchizedek.

(http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4773.msg36684.html#msg36684):

Likewise, before Moses, tithing was not a law for God's saints. Abraham did not tithe of his own personal property, products from is land or his herds. Melchizedek TITHED [tenthED] Abraham (Heb. 7:7.  "Yet he [Melchizedek] who is not of their genealogy, has tithED Abraham" (Concordant Literal New Testament); "...has TAKEN tithes of Abraham" (Rotherham's Emphasized Bible).  The Greek reads "has TITHED [TENTHED] Abraham."  How so. How did he "tenth" Abraham? He TAXED Abraham ten percent. It was the common practice for all the pagan kings and priests at that time. Melchizedek was "priest to the most high god"--"priest to the most high el."  The "most high El" in Canaan was BAAL!! That is precisely what the Canaanites called their god Baal--the most high EL.

        This is the very first time the title "el" is used in Scripture and it has reference to to Melchizedek a very important priest of the Canaanites.         

        And this Melchizedek was the BEST ten percent of the spoils of war (Heb. 7:4). The King James leaves this word out, "choicest" or "best" of the plunder.  Imagine Jehovah desiring THE BEST OF THE PAGAN GOLD IMAGES AND GODS OF THE SODOMITES?  Give me a break.  Where did God ever demand a tenth of the "spoils of war" from His nation Israel?  Abraham would have anything to do with that pagan junk, but we are to assume God said, "but, I'LL TAKE IT."  Ridiculous. There is ZERO justification for teaching that Abraham "tithed to God." I need to add this information regarding Melchizedek to my tithing paper.



Email reply (http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4925.msg38376.html#msg38376):

Dear Peter:  The "change in the law" had nothing to do with putting the tithing law under the Melchizedek priesthood!  Where di you ever come up with that.  Maybe it is YOU, Peter who needs to "research all sides of it Scripturally."

The "change in the law" had to do with Christ being now our High Priest, although He did NOT becomes a priest after the line of Levi/Aaron which was what THE LAW stipulated.  Melchizedek was the HIGH PRIEST of the Canaanites (call the priest of the most high El--god, the Canaanite god Baal).  This priest had the power and authority to TAX Abraham a tenth of all the spoils of war under his jurisdiction.  Heb. 7:6 should read: "Yet he [Melchizedek] who is not of their genealogy has TITHED Abraham...." (See, Concordant Literal New Testament).  Who do you mean Melchizedek "tithed" Abraham? He TAXED him.  Jehovay God Almighty never requested ten percent of the pagan junk from war.  Since when would God or HIS high priest desire the pagan gold and silver of Sodom. Give me a break.  Was Abraham more righteous than GOD, in that he would not even touch the pagan belongings of Sodom? Did God say, "Oh, but I WANT IT, and I want 10% of the BEST of the spoi ls?"  It's almost blasphemy.



No, Melchizedek was not literally Christ...Jesus emptied Himself of all divinity for the express purpose of death [Heb 2:9, Phil 2:5-9], not to tithe/tax Abraham.

Christ priesthood is in the 'order of Melchizedek' [Heb 7:17 & 21, Ps 110:4] in that it was unchangeable, Christ will always be our High Priest. Melchizedek is said to have 'no genealogy' [Heb 7:3] not that he was immortal as God alone possesses immortality [1 Tim 6:16].


Hope this helps,

Marques
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Lupac

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Re: Melchidezek
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2009, 01:04:19 PM »

Then, if Melchizedek was a pagan king/priest, why is Jesus called a priest in "the order of Melchizedek"?
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mharrell08

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Re: Melchidezek
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2009, 01:06:28 PM »

No, Melchizedek was not literally Christ...Jesus emptied Himself of all divinity for the express purpose of death [Heb 2:9, Phil 2:5-9], not to tithe/tax Abraham.

Christ priesthood is in the 'order of Melchizedek' [Heb 7:17 & 21, Ps 110:4] in that it was unchangeable, Christ will always be our High Priest. Melchizedek is said to have 'no genealogy' [Heb 7:3] not that he was immortal as God alone possesses immortality [1 Tim 6:16].


Hope this helps,

Marques


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