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An Exercise of Conference Review
Deborah-Leigh:
Something quite personal and edifying was revealed to me from Rays conference. Ray shared that he said to God that He had to find him a house if He wanted him to move. Minutes later he found his house.
This was personal to me because this year I lost my home. It was horrible to try to find another home. Not only was it a difficult circumstance, but I did not want to ask God for a house because I felt that He already KNEW that I needed a home. What held me back from asking God for a home was an incorrect understanding of God’s Word. I felt that to ask God, would be transgressing the Scripture where we are told not to do as the Gentiles do in asking God for their needs because God knows what we need before we do, right? Well no. I was a real pale face on this one!
I was determined not to ask God so He caused me to cry to Him after I fell down the steps of another awful house my husband and I went to see. It was raining and I fell badly although I was not hurt physically I was shattered inwardly. The next day, despite the Scripture, I cried to God, “God! We need a house!” The thought, ….over the road with river frontage….streamed into my mind. I was so wrought with apathy by now, that I did not respond to this thought not even in curiosity. That afternoon, with resignation, I joined my husband to go and see yet another house. On our way he commented that his Father had told him that there was a house for sale….you got it…over the road with river frontage! THAT’S IT! I exclaimed. I did not care if there was a tent on the property; I knew it was where God had appointed us to be.
When I heard what happened to Ray, I went to the Scripture I thought I had understood and found out that I had not paid attention to the words! It reads…
Mat 6:31 Therefore do not be anxious, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, With what shall we be clothed? (NOTHING ABOUT A HOME!)
Mat 6:32 For the nations seek after all these things. For your heavenly Father knows that you have need of all these things.
As for my home, God says
Act 17:26 And He has made all nations of men of one blood to dwell on all the face of the earth, ordaining fore-appointed seasons and boundaries of their dwelling…..
I could see that I should have asked God earlier on in my search. I may not have had to fall down the steps and nearly give a heart attack to the agent showing us the wrong house!... …God caused me to turn to Him and know that He is God the Provider and He showed me that I mis-understood His Scripture.
Now God is working on me to show me that my home is not only where He appoints in the natural boundaries, but also in the Spiritual Heavenly realms.
I am asking God for a better home in the thinking relms of my habitations as so wonderfully illustrated in Rays teaching us to observe that we really are as God says, and as importantly shown again here in the Forum.….as we think…. :)
Arc
mharrell08:
Excerpt from 2009 Conference (http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,10966.msg94723.html#msg94723):
So, God does all these things, don’t feel frustrated if you’ve not conquered all your sins. You can feel bad and you should feel bad, you can feel guilty and you should feel guilty, but don’t become discouraged, for this too shall pass, in God’s time.
God is calling you, God is choosing you and you know in your heart if you want to obey God and live right and do right and walk in the spirit, you know that. Well, then it’s going to happen. There is no condemnation on God’s part. So have that assurance.
Ephesians 2:10 For we (God’s chosen Elect) are HIS (God’s) workmanship (Concordant translates this achievement), created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
We are God’s achievement, we don’t achieve it by ourselves. We’re God’s workmanship, “we’re God’s achievement, created in Christ Jesus unto good works.” So God intends for us to do good works. If you’re not doing very many good works, God’s not through with you yet. He’s working with you, work-manship speaks of a process, achievement speaks more of reaching the goal. You will reach the goal.
So when you read all of this stuff, it appears like “all is of God”……well duh.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
I guess we can all say amen to that.
Romans 3:24 Being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
v. 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation (that is a covering, a shelter) through faith in His blood, to declare His righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
v. 26 To declare, I say, at this time His righteousness: that He might be just, and the justifier of him which believes in Jesus.
Now, it says you have to believe in Jesus, that’s faith. Where are you going to get that faith? It’s a gift of God too. Just rely on God, accept Him at His word. Pray, say ‘God, Ray has shown me all this stuff, is that true, are You going to do all that in my life?’
Well, if He is calling you, of course He will. Why are you fretting so? Why do you really worry, that maybe you won’t be in the kingdom of God? You will be, unless you’re sitting here faking it. Unless you really don’t love God and you would really prefer a worldly life of lust and sin and all of that. But if you’re here because you do love God, you love decency, and goodness and purity and virtue and all the things that Paul said to “think on these things.” If that’s how you are and how you want to be, then that’s how it’s going to happen. In God’s time it will happen in your life.
Great topic Samson :)
Ray makes a good point about not becoming discouraging at our sinful shortcoming but recognizing it is God working in us that gives us the victory. Many times we hear our fellow brethren speak as if they know for sure the Lake of Fire is their destination because they are not overcoming all the sins in their life. But like Ray says, if God is calling you and and working in you, he's not finished with you yet.
Jesus says His meat is to do the will of the Father and finish His Work [John 4:34]...that includes His Work in us. He will finish it as we are being made complete in Him. There is no need to worry of our election seeing that it is God who does the Work...just trust in Him to finish what He has started in us.
Marques
Samson:
you’re sitting here faking it. Unless you really don’t love God and you would really prefer a worldly life of lust and sin and all of that. But if you’re here because you do love God, you love decency, and goodness and purity and virtue and all the things that Paul said to “think on these things.” If that’s how you are and how you want to be, then that’s how it’s going to happen. In God’s time it will happen in your life[/b].[/color]
Great topic Samson :)
Ray makes a good point about not becoming discouraging at our sinful shortcoming but recognizing it is God working in us that gives us the victory. Many times we hear our fellow brethren speak as if they know for sure the Lake of Fire is their destination because they are not overcoming all the sins in their life. But like Ray says, if God is calling you and and working in you, he's not finished with you yet.
Jesus says His meat is to do the will of the Father and finish His Work [John 4:34]...that includes His Work in us. He will finish it as we are being made complete in Him. There is no need to worry of our election seeing that it is God who does the Work...just trust in Him to finish what He has started in us.
Marques
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Thanks Marques,
I can relate to that last paragraph above by Ray and your subsequent comment. In my case, it's not that I believe so overwhelmed by Sin that I'll be in the Lake of Fire Judgement, it's just more for me a feeling of being worthless and not good enough, probably as a result of the damage other Humans have done to me over the years, although perhaps it's had a humbling affect, which is good as mentioned by Ray at the Conference.
Kind Regards, Samson.
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Samson on December 21, 2009, 04:11:38 PM ---Thanks Marques,
I can relate to that last paragraph above by Ray and your subsequent comment. In my case, it's not that I believe so overwhelmed by Sin that I'll be in the Lake of Fire Judgement, it's just more for me a feeling of being worthless and not good enough, probably as a result of the damage other Humans have done to me over the years, although perhaps it's had a humbling affect, which is good as mentioned by Ray at the Conference.
Kind Regards, Samson.
--- End quote ---
And I think that shows a greater work of the Lord to call those who are 'not many wise, not many noble, not many mighty' [1 Cor 1:26]. As Jesus told the Pharisees, 'I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance' [Matt 9:13].
Knowing we can do nothing of virtue of ourselves is certainly humbling and this fact admonishes us to rely/trust in God heart, mind, & soul. I think when we judge ourselves and are humbled at how weak the flesh is, we trust in God and look to Him to lift us up. I believe this humbling effect is God pulling us closer in this age...the more He shows us our shortcomings, the more we recognize just how truly awesome He is. Alright, I'm rambling but great thread nonetheless Samson... :)
Marques
darren:
Unfortunately I was not able to attend the conf. However I have been watching and listing to everyword from the beginning to the end. Over and over. I just wanted to comment on what Arc. was talking about. They needed a home very badly and did not feel right to ask God for one. I was in that same situation. After Katrina we had lost everything we owned (and everything we did not own). We were living in a matchbox(FEMA trailer) I was alone and very depressed. I started praying and I cupped my hands and raised them in the air and said "here God, I can not do this" here are my burdens. Here is my housing problem, my transportation problems, so on and so forth. I was pleading with the Lord to take away these problems and help me. Help me find a house I can afforded, a car, some clothes. We really need the everyday things that most just take for granted. The next day I hear a knock at the door, it was the Red Cross. They had brought us boxes of clothes, food, cleaning supplies. things we needed for the bathroom, it was a God Sent. The next day I get a call from a program director that helped find decent housing for people in our situation. by the end of the week we were moving. I just wonder what if I had asked for the Lords help sooner. But then again this all happen in God's time, table not mine. I know for me it is pride that gets in my way. pride and the fact that I feel like a hypocrite when I ask for God;s help. But that a different subject. Anyway I guess what I am trying to say is that, do not be afraid to asked God for ones needs. He will ansewer. Just in His time frame, not ours.
PS. Positivity breeds positivity, Negativity breeds negativity. If one hangs around negative people it will bring one down sooner or latter. As one thinks, one is. (Just a thought). Thank you Samson for this post.
Darren
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