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mharrell08:
Excerpts from 'You Fools, You Hypocrites, You Snakes' (http://bible-truths.com/fools.htm):

Jesus spoke the language of the people, the language of the day. He was natural, He was colloquial, He was precise, He was articulate, He was emotional, He was sincere. Jesus spoke EXACTLY AND PRECISELY as He was inside, because it is a Scriptural truth that, "…out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks" (Matt. 12:34).


    "Cry ALOUD, SPARE NOT, lift up your voice like a TRUMPET, and show my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins" (Isa. 58:1).

Likewise, as a servant of God I cannot expose the evil and hypocrisy in the Church and in this world with a song in my heart, a smile on my face, and a chuckle in my voice! Sorry, but that won’t get the job done. I laugh considerably more than almost anyone I know. But try to palm off the evil and vile doctrines of the Church to God’s "little ones," and my countenance changes instantly!

There is a time for humor and there is a time to get serious. Sarcasm can be serious business. Well did Isaiah prophesy of such:

    "Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us SMOOTH things, prophesy DECEITS" (Isa. 30:10).

I would rather sound a little angry or sarcastic than to teach smooth and deceitful things. Even Isaiah used colorful language, "speak unto us smooth things." Could this be the origin of "smooth talkers?"

I'm not sure why it is automatically assumed that if one sounds angry there is something wrong with his message. When speaking of immoral and evil things that hurt and deceive people, it behooves us to be ANGRY about such things. Anger does not have to be a sin. God’s anger is mentioned a couple of hundreds times in Scripture. Many of the teachings of the Church are not only evil, but they are stupid and foolish. Sarcasm is often the perfect exposer of stupidity.


GOD DOESN’T CHOOSE PANSIES TO DO HIS WORK

    "And as they departed, Jesus began to say unto the multitudes concerning John, ‘What went ye out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken with the wind? But what went you out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment [‘a man dressed in silks and satins?’—Williams Translation] behold, they that wear soft clothing [‘Behold they which are gorgeously appareled {dressed}, and live delicately {in luxury}, Luke 7:25], are in kings’ houses" (Matt. 11:7-8).

Is this not a taunting, sarcastic remark? He asked them what spectacle they expected to see out there in the wilderness—a blade of grass swaying in the wind? Some patsy that would be blown away by the softest summer breeze? Jesus was asking these religious sophisticates whether they thought a real man of God would look like some prim and prissy, prudish, punctilious, polished, patrician of the kings court? Is THAT what kind of a man you went out to see? Someone who would never get his fingernails dirty?

The religious leaders were offended by the rough presence of John the Baptist. But what is the Truth? What kind of a man was this John the Baptizer who was

    "…clothed with camel’s hair, and with girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat locusts and wild honey" (Mark 1:6)?

Here’s the Truth:

    "For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist…" (Luke 7:28).


Speaking naturally and direct is one speaking directly from their heart. Though one may not like the way they 'heard' the message, the message itself is of utmost importance.

Some may point out: "But this is Jesus speaking to the Pharisees...we're all brothers & sisters here on the forum!" No, we're not...those who are doing the will of the Father, those are the true brothers & sisters in the Lord [Matt 12:50, Mark 3:35].

Not everyone who joins this forum is looking to do the will of God. I've heard the many reasons why not: 'He/She is not at that level of understanding' or 'He/She is still young in age' (though not too young to be stubborn to the truth, I might add), or 'This is where God has me at now' (and so does Satan, 1 Pet 5:8 ).

The newbies and minors in understanding, who are genuinely seeking the will of God, continue to grow as God is calling them. They seek sound counsel and follow through with the wisdom provided. They READ RAY TEACHINGS on the scriptures...and even if they may not 'get it' all yet, they continue to seek assistance in their growth. It is not about a speed race, as to learn quickly to 'catch up', but rather gaining an understanding to change their life.

For others, it is more self-serving. They do not heed to counsel given and plainly ignore others. They always have time to post and read 'other' material or listen to what so and so says about the scriptures...but never of Ray's material. Which is the express purpose of this forum...how it differentiates between other traditional 'Christian forums'. They are not seeking a change in their life but are simply 'religious hobbyists'. Is this their final state? No, but there's nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade.

For either case, speaking naturally and direct is simply getting to the heart of the matter. Are we here to learn about God, to do His Will, to learn of His Holy character? Or, are we here for something else? To speak this way is not meant to harm but rather a 'let's get to the meat of this issue' mindset. Hope this helps for future reference.

This is not meant to be malicious or 'scare anyone from posting'...this is simply direct from me ["…out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks" Matt 12:34] as all my posts are, thank you.


Marques

daywalker:

I concur.

Thank you Marques!  ;) ;D

Kat:

1Co 12:12  For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ.
v. 13  For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into[3] one Spirit.
v. 14  For in fact the body is not one member but many.
v. 15  If the foot should say, "Because I am not a hand, I am not of the body," is it therefore not of the body?
v. 16  And if the ear should say, "Because I am not an eye, I am not of the body," is it therefore not of the body?
v. 17  If the whole body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the smelling?
v. 18  But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as He pleased.
v. 19  And if they were all one member, where would the body be?
v. 20  But now indeed there are many members, yet one body.
v. 21  And the eye cannot say to the hand, "I have no need of you"; nor again the head to the feet, "I have no need of you."
v. 22  No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary.
v. 23  And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow greater honor; and our unpresentable parts have greater modesty,
v. 24  but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it,
v. 25  that there should be no schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another.
v. 26  And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.
v. 27  Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually.
v. 28  And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues.
v. 29  Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles?
v. 30  Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?
v. 31  But earnestly desire the best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way.

We all have our different roles here, you my dear brother are a protector of the forum in your own way.  I am thankful to have someone as yourself, that is very strong in the truth that God has given through Bible Truths, to be here and speak from the heart to help us gain understanding.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

Ninny:
Excuse me, John, but the women on this forum respect our men here very much and just because we may not agree on every single thing doesn't mean we don't love and respect them!! Don't insult our intelligence! Our men here are strong and wonderful and we do not resent them at all!! Now if I have misunderstood you, I am sorry!
 With all respect to you,
Kathy  :)

Deborah-Leigh:
Here is some thing else that follows off your excellent observations regarding how we are to know Christ as expounded in the teaching we have from Ray.

Rev 12:7  And there was war in Heaven. Michael and his angels warring against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels warred,
Rev 12:8  but did not prevail. Nor was place found for them in Heaven any more.

I have looked at the words and see : placeG5117 G5117
τόπος
topos
top'-os
Apparently a primary word; a spot (generally in space, but limited by occupancy; whereas G5561 is a larger but particular locality), that is, location (as a position, home, tract, etc.); figuratively condition, opportunity; specifically a scabbard: - coast, licence, place, X plain, quarter, + rock, room, where.
This is the I KNOW YOU NOT nature of our Lord Jesus Christ into Whose Image we are being made by God!

 Luk 13:27  But He shall say, I tell you, I do not know you; from where you are. Depart from Me,  all workers of unrighteousness!

Rev 12:9  And the great dragon was cast out, the old serpent called Devil, and Satan, who deceives the whole world. He was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10  And I heard a great voice saying in Heaven, Now has come the salvation and power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of His Christ. For the accuser of our brothers is cast down, who accused them before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11  And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their testimony.

I have noticed  serpent,G3789 G3789
ὄφις
ophis
of'-is
Probably from G3700 (through the idea of sharpness of vision); a snake, figuratively (as a type of sly cunning) an artful malicious person, especially Satan: - serpent
ARTFULLY MALICIOUS – hateful, spiteful, malevolent, mean, nasty, cruel, wicked- PERSON

And dragonG1404G1404
δράκων
drakōn
drak'-own
Probably from an alternate form of δέρκομαι derkomai (to look); a fabulous kind of serpent (perhaps as supposed to fascinate): - dragon.
TO FASCINATE – charm, attract, enthrall, mesmerize, captivate, absorb, intrigue, appeal, beguile, allure, entice, put under a spell -
 
The Scriptures show us that both Michael and the Devil have angels. angelsG32G32
ἄγγελος
aggelos
ang'-el-os
•   From ἀγγέλλω aggellō (probably derived from G71; compare G34; to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an “angel”; by implication a pastor: - angel, messenger.

A PASTOR! – minister, member of the clergy, preacher, cleric, prophet, nun, monk, holy man or woman (as perceived by the world!.....
The Pastor from God is a courier, envoy and herald of God’s Word as is Ray Smith.

We have just had a thread in the Forum about prophecy that is no accident.

We have to discern the difference between the prophet that will fascinate and charm and who works together as the artfully malicious person. The wolf in the sheep’s clothing.

Rev 18:21  And one strong angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, So on an impulse the great city, Babylon, will be thrown down and not at all will be found any more.

Will be found no more, has to occur in my heaven…my mind…my being that God causes me to experience the endeavor enterprise, venture, undertaking, effort and attempt,  to KEEP the unity of peace with the Spirit, Mind and Heart of Christ.
 Eph 4:3  endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
EndeavouringG4704 From G4710; to use speed, that is, to make effort, be prompt or earnest: - do (give) diligence, be diligent (forward), endeavour, labour, study.


to keepG5083 G5083
τηρέω
tēreō
tay-reh'-o
From τηρός teros (a watch; perhaps akin to G2334); to guard (from loss or injury, properly by keeping the eye upon; and thus differing from G5442, which is properly to prevent escaping; and from G2892, which implies a fortress or full military lines of apparatus), that is, to note (a prophecy; figuratively to fulfil a command); by implication to detain (in custody; figuratively to maintain); by extension to withhold (for personal ends; figuratively to keep unmarried): - hold fast, keep (-er), (ob-, pre-, re) serve, watch.

That is HOLD FAST to what we have been taught!

God causes us to do as His Word commands. So we are taught, inspired and encouraged  by the example of His Son Jesus Christ,  to do the same.   :)

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