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Extol:
Evil and suffering used for a GOOD purpose? The carnal mind cannot understand such a ridiculous concept. They think "Well, if I was God, I'd do it this way, and everything would be good and peaceful and perfect." And since the real God does not work that way, they don't believe. I have a sweet friend who is kind and loving and peaceful. War and violence appal her. I was sharing with her some of my beliefs, and she said "You know why I cannot believe in God? Because there are wars."
 Very few people, including believers in God, can understand that God does not just "allow" evil, but creates it and uses it for His good purposes. But like Dave said, even in these, God is in control, and operating all according to the counsel of His will. [Eph. 1:11]

9440geoff:
Hi Myms,

I cried too when I saw the pictures from Haiti and the suffering of the people there.

But what also brought tears to my eyes was the response from people all over the world. The donations people make to aid organisations such as the Red Cross shows that they care, and that they are in the process of being made into the image of God.

Perhaps that is why disasters happen.

Geoff

OBrenda:
Hey M,

Perhaps some reasons out of the many our creator has, may be the opportunity for some to feel love and have compassion.
Some may be allowed the privilege to take action personally to help. Other to simply consider as wonderful and brilliant man is, he is not in control of his destiny.

I fear none of this makes sense if you believe there is no redemption beyond the grave. If only heaven or hell awaits all theses (whom we believe are sleeping) that died.  I would agree how cruel, and how could a God allow such chaos?

I was behind some women today in the grocery store.  The cashier was asking the first one woman would you like to donate to the special Olympics or Hatti ? She was enraged and expressed that she was sick and tired of everybody asking for money like her church ext....The second woman in line when asked said No also, and replied when is someone going to give me a donation?  I know the UK is up to date on much of the US problems so I trust you may understand these women's frustrations.  My husband has been out of work for over a year, so I'm acquainted with the reality of possibly losing my home.  By the grace of God, when the cashier asked me if I wanted to donate, I answered yes, gave very little, and thanked God for the opportunity to give to Him.

"Whatever you do for the least of these you do to Me"

You have tears in your eyes because of the love of God shed in your heart.
It is right that we all grieve together over this!
With You M!
Brenda


gmik:
It is sad of the problems in this life, but necessary for correction in our lives for our next/real life.

At a funeral 2 days ago, I had to listen to some yucky preaching.  I swear preachers don't listen to themselves.  he quoted that God came to save the whole world and then garbled it w/ rapture stuff.  Then he quoted where they are asleep and will rise at the last trump...and then said my uncle was up in heaven looking down on us!!!  and this one....4 days ago, my uncle-on a machine to keep his heart breathing- "accepted" the Lord and "got saved"- he used no quotes that time.

The world & Babylon don't "get" God.  They don't "get" the Bible.  and they are never gonna "get" us.  I was prepared to talk to people maybe to set them straight, but they don't really want to know.

Disasters like Haiti or a tragedy in your personal life-its all of God for reasons he knew before the foundations of the world.  Much good can come out of evil.  And we have to know evil before we can know good.

PS...it was kind of good hearing an old time Baptist preacher...it just made what I have learned at BT and from Ray more crystal clear!

tamaralv:
Hi Myms,

Don't worry about answering the atheists...they probably wouldn't believe you anyway.  I've tried to tell believers the Truth and if they won't believe then I don't think I'd be much good at convincing an atheist! 
I don't watch much TV anymore....now I spend most of my time reading.  However, when I heard about the earthquake in Haiti I decided to turn the TV on and the images of dead and dying people broke my heart.  I've read and  heard stories about the poverty, disease and crime.  How is it even remotely possible that only 600 miles off the coast of the wealthiest nation in the world sits the POOREST little country in the Western hemisphere?!  These people have been so desperate for so many years while the collective World has sat by watching.  I could go on and on about the forgotten street kids, the starvation and disease, the slavery and mistreatment and the fact that  they lack even basic healthcare. And now an earthquake?!  How much more can these people be expected to endure?  But Myms, what if the answer to their plight was the quake?  Right now Haiti has the attention of the whole world.  Look at the response from  the global community!  This is an opportunity to show just HOW we care for His little ones.  As devistating as this earthquake has been, I see God's fingerprints all over this.  Please don't anyone misunderstand what I'm trying to say.  I in no way agree with Pat Robertson and think the Haitians "deserved" this as punishment!  God loves ALL His creation and that includes the Haitians, Mr. Robertson!  And I don't pretend that I understand all that He is doing but God has everything in His control.   We have to have Faith that He will do as He promises and use this for His good.  Can you imagine the prayers from around the world going out to our Father for the people of Haiti and their rescuers?  The power of prayer is an amazing thing.  May His will be done.


Peace and Love in Christ Jesus,

Tammy 

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