> Introductions, Announcements, and More of Ray's Teachings
I (thought about) leaving for a while.
Lupac:
I've tried and tried to have faith. I'm not giving up on God or anything. I just, I can't figure out what's true and what's not. Today, while searching around, I found out the Hebrews (Correct me if I'm wrong.) viewed the earth as flat, with the sky being a kind of dome. How is that more enlightened than what others around them believed? (Unless you believe the world really is flat.) I can't understand all of this. Thank you all for putting up with me.
EKnight:
Lupac,
Matthew 7:7 "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
Eileen
jerreye:
Hi Lupac, I can feel your frustration. (I can relate to you).
First off, the Hebrew people were FULL of disbelief. Many of them worshiped hand made idols and even passed their firstborns through the fire to a pagan god named Molech! They also mocked and crucified their prophesied Messiah, even though Daniel told them the exact year He would come to them (Daniel 9:24-27)! I mean, how blind does one have to be? I think believing that the earth is flat pales in comparison to this.
All of these things are preordained, as "ALL is of God". He has a grand plan. Hardening people's hearts in the process is simply a means to an end. How else can God truly display His attributes, such as mercy, unless He makes some as vessels unto dishonor (in order to SHOW mercy on them)?
"He has concluded all (including the Hebrews) in UNBELIEF...SO THAT He may have mercy upon them ALL."
We need to "keep on truckin"! We need to overcome and trust God, even though sometimes it is the hardest thing we can do. And believe me, I'm talking to myself just as much as you :)
I will pray for you.
Cheers,
Jeremy
Lupac:
--- Quote from: jerreye on January 15, 2010, 10:44:33 PM ---Hi Lupac, I can feel your frustration. (I can relate to you).
First off, the Hebrew people were FULL of disbelief. Many of them worshiped hand made idols and even passed their firstborns through the fire to a pagan god named Molech! They also mocked and crucified their prophesied Messiah, even though Daniel told them the exact year He would come to them (Daniel 9:24-27)! I mean, how blind does one have to be? I think believing that the earth is flat pales in comparison to this.
All of these things are preordained, as "ALL is of God". He has a grand plan. Hardening people's hearts in the process is simply a means to an end. How else can God truly display His attributes, such as mercy, unless He makes some as vessels unto dishonor (in order to SHOW mercy on them)?
"He has concluded all (including the Hebrews) in UNBELIEF...SO THAT He may have mercy upon them ALL."
We need to "keep on truckin"! We need to overcome and trust God, even though sometimes it is the hardest thing we can do. And believe me, I'm talking to myself just as much as you :)
I will pray for you.
Cheers,
Jeremy
--- End quote ---
It's not so much that the Hebrews believed it, as much as the creation account in Genesis seems to support it. Does it? Also, when Satan brought Jesus to the "high mountain", where He could see "all the kingdoms of the world", it seems to support it.
(I wish I wasn't so fearful. I am still afraid of hell, and a lot of other things.)
frecklegirl417:
--- Quote from: Lupac on January 15, 2010, 11:04:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: jerreye on January 15, 2010, 10:44:33 PM ---Hi Lupac, I can feel your frustration. (I can relate to you).
First off, the Hebrew people were FULL of disbelief. Many of them worshiped hand made idols and even passed their firstborns through the fire to a pagan god named Molech! They also mocked and crucified their prophesied Messiah, even though Daniel told them the exact year He would come to them (Daniel 9:24-27)! I mean, how blind does one have to be? I think believing that the earth is flat pales in comparison to this.
All of these things are preordained, as "ALL is of God". He has a grand plan. Hardening people's hearts in the process is simply a means to an end. How else can God truly display His attributes, such as mercy, unless He makes some as vessels unto dishonor (in order to SHOW mercy on them)?
"He has concluded all (including the Hebrews) in UNBELIEF...SO THAT He may have mercy upon them ALL."
We need to "keep on truckin"! We need to overcome and trust God, even though sometimes it is the hardest thing we can do. And believe me, I'm talking to myself just as much as you :)
I will pray for you.
Cheers,
Jeremy
--- End quote ---
It's not so much that the Hebrews believed it, as much as the creation account in Genesis seems to support it. Does it? Also, when Satan brought Jesus to the "high mountain", where He could see "all the kingdoms of the world", it seems to support it.
(I wish I wasn't so fearful. I am still afraid of hell, and a lot of other things.)
--- End quote ---
My dear young brother,
We are all afraid of one thing or another but to let those fears run our lives lets in the doubt and pushes out the love our Heavenly father has for us. When you feel these fears creeping up on you PRAY! You have to have a little faith in yourself and what our creater has given you. Stop questioning what he has given you and look at it has away for him to open your eyes and your heart to him. Their are hundreds of people you are not has lucky has we are to know just a clipse into his truth. You need to stop and study what is in front of you and not look for other ways to create doubt in yourself. Our Heavenly Father chose you for a reason and it is not for you at this time to questionit. Let is love show through and stop pushing him away he just wants to keep you safe. I know this may not make sense, but in time it will. We here at BT have studied and continue to study but we open our hearts and our ears and let him guide us, not others or our fears. So, take a deep breathe and open the door to your heart and he will show you the way instead of you trying to bang your head against the wall looking for the right direction.
Your sister,
frecklegirl
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