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Lupac:

--- Quote from: Stacey on January 23, 2010, 02:56:29 AM ---
--- Quote ---Because it's all I know. When your born under a lie, and have lived almost all your life in that lie... It's hard to let go. Plus, I have very deep-seated fear, of God and hell, and the lies.
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No it is not ALL YOU KNOW. You have been given sound counsel from Ray's teachings and from members here on the forum.

You say that you,

1. Fear God
2. Fear Hell
3. Fear lies

and the reason you give is,

1.born under a lie
2.have lived almost all your life in that lie
3.It's hard to let go

From the statement you have made here I believe you are either seriously confussed or you are not ready to believe the truths presented to you from Ray and the members here. Either way Lupac, I'll be praying for you.




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Sorry, that sentence should have read "all I've known". I do know different. I found it very hard to believe in God, even when I didn't know about Ray. I forced myself to "believe" because I was so afraid of God. I just want to stop worrying about everything. Thanks Roy. I guess I haven't really said anything positive about God. I'm sorry. I'll be thinking about what you said. Also, I see things, like that Tektonics site or whatever, people who use lots of words to say nothing. They scare me. I try not to even think about them.

Roy Martin:
Lupac, I was a teenager when I first watched the movie Psycho. I was afraid to close my eyes in the shower for almost 10 years because of that shower seen. Just don't expose yourself to such things.
 I'm older now and I can watch things that don't scare me, but it still goes into the mind and can affect dreams in more ways than you can imagine. Stay away from negative things. At least with this place you don't, and won't find fearful things. This is a positive place to be. Its not perfect, but I believe its the best your going to find. You stick to just here, and stay away from everything else, and within a short time you will see a difference in yourself as those childish fears and worries turn to something safe and secure. Exposure seems to be the hub of your whole affair. Try it. You have lots to gain and nothing to lose but fear and worry. Show me you are serious. Let me see the tough side of you. I know you have it, but you run from it. I'm a man, your a man, but show me some toughness in the man that you are and lets both be men and not children with childish fears. Aren't you tired of getting beat up. Man you have to fight some times. Just do it. You owe me nothing, but I think you will except my challenge or crawl into a corner. Which will it be?

Peace
Roy

Lupac:
I'll do it. FYI, I'm not like this in real life, meaning, I don't talk or act like this to other people. All this fear is in my mind, but I don't show it to anybody. I probably wouldn't even be able to look you in the eye, and say I was afraid. I would lie, because I'm always trying to be the fearless one. It's weird...

arion:
I know your on different forums Lupac and I've read some of the other things you have written.  I think Roy has shared some good wisdom with you.  You know deep in your heart whether or not your hearing the truth here but then you go out and dabble around with others that have thier own issues with  doubt and they amplify some of the fears your dealing with.  I would shut out all those other spiritual annoyances and stick where you can be fed and encouraged.  Not that this forum or Ray has all the truth.  Of course not.  But you won't find a constant stream of doubt and unbelief being magnified here either.  If you really want the truth then continue to seek and you will find.  And also don't doubt in the darkness what God has give you in the light.  Immerse yourself in the scriptures here and in time the doubt and unbelief will will lessen.

Roy Martin:

--- Quote from: Lupac on January 23, 2010, 12:03:06 PM ---I'll do it. FYI, I'm not like this in real life, meaning, I don't talk or act like this to other people. All this fear is in my mind, but I don't show it to anybody. I probably wouldn't even be able to look you in the eye, and say I was afraid. I would lie, because I'm always trying to be the fearless one. It's weird...

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Okay, you said you'll do it, stay away from everything but this place and Rays teachings. Is that what your saying you will do? Lets be clear on this. Hey, I'm taking time to try and help you. Your here for help aren't you? You want to get rid of the fear in your mind, right?
 If what I ask you to do does nothing for you in lets say a month or two, and you honestly say you feel no different then I'll say I'm sorry and I tried, but that's not going to be the case because I trust God with all my heart.
 Don't tell me your going to do something, and then think your fooling me. It won't work with me because God has gave me what I call spiritual common sense. Try to fool me and you'll see what it is.
 This is for you Lupac, not me. You accepting this challenge is said so all can see. Are you sure you can do it? Of course you can. Don't be ridicules.
 Lets start right now; okay?

Roy

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