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Grace and Peace be unto you !!! Read what the Lord has done !!!!
PAMITCHRUS:
Aye Mark,
Speaking in Future Perfect Tense ... But those who do recieve the Spirit while in this age are sons of god in the flesh.. Such were all who recieved the spirit in those days... That's why Paul has to write all those letters telling people not quit work, sell everything the lord had not come yet, couldn't come till after anti-christ arose..
Ya know why he had to do that my brother Mark ??? Cause when the baptism comes on ya, ya go, well, crazy.. All of the sudden your in the physical world, yet connected to the spiritual world. .
Mark, I cashed in my 70,000 401 k plan, spent it on the less fourtunate than myself, rejoycing in the Lord , Proclaiming his name loudly all the while, (long story here ). Lost 30 pounds in the course of a few months, hardly eat or slept... Paced endless circles while our Heanvly Father did just what the Scriptures said he would do... Oh yeah even as those were , I was I just knew for sure that the Lord was round the corner. Remember now , the Anti- Christ has long been risen.. lol.. I think this happens to all who get a full voltage zap...
And Jesus himself declared with all authority of the Father that those who believed in his name would (now or later God's whole plan is Future Perfect Complete ) be given the Holy Spirit, and when they did recieve the Holy Spirit that Spirit would teach them all things..
It has happened to me.. I pray it for you... Mark, and all who read these words... Ask the Father to give you what he gave me.. Blessed be your name my Father !!!! Be Zapped in that Holy Name !!
pamitchrus
PAMITCHRUS:
--- Quote from: tinknocker on January 23, 2010, 01:20:45 AM ---Wow - my first thought was whatever he's smoking I want some ;) ;D
That was not my experience but more of a humbling, repentant, tearful experience when I came to see the love of our father.
After rereading your post several times I agree with all that you have said.
It just might be we will all have different experiences when the Holy Ghost comes upon you.
In Love
tinknocker
And with much love in return the words of our Father come to mind, "Blessed Be the man Who's heart comdemn him not for that thing which he alloweths..
How ya doing there tinknocker ??? Oh yeah no doubt I agree with you there.. And I make light of no experience of any here... remember we are of those chose to gatther, not scatter.. :0)... I know I come across as perhaps arrogant to some on here, can't help that , I been given something special and to deny that would be to deny Him..
Thererfore eourage all by what has been given to me, You could even consider me an messanger.. For I have seen the most Holy One in Spirit, all the words I speak are true..
And a most heartfelt thanks to you, TINKNOCKER, for being a Witness to the truth of those words..
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LiberatedEagle:
--- Quote ---Please enlighten me on how we are sons now when we have not yet been born of the Spirit.
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I believe I am a son of God because the scripture states in Romans 8:12 "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God'. I've learned under Ray's teaching this desire I have to be righteous doesn't derive from me, this truth wasn't revealed to me by flesh and blood, but by the Father which is in heaven. I believe in the name of Jesus and all that it encompasses.
Paul states in Ephesians 1:13,14 "In whom ye also trusted that after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, YE WERE SEALED WITH THAT HOLY SPIRIT OF PROMISE. Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased posession, unto the praise of His glory.
I believe I serve God according to the spirit, the Spirit that He placed in me. Though I haven't stop sinning yet, I know I will. I am His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. My righteousness only comes by faith; Faith that He will finish what He started in me.
Paul teaches me that: "if there be any who preach any other gospel unto you than that which we preached, let him be accursed. Paul goes on to state this understanding wasn't revealed by man, but by revelation of Jesus Christ. I believe that and what He would have me to understand now, is what I will understand now.
In His Will,
Charles
rockrdude:
from God our Kind and Precious Heavenly Father, thru Jesus middle name yet revealed Christ nd from the Great one Himself... Jesus Christ
Jesus middle name? Chapter and verse please.
I have seen our most Holy Father[/color]
John 1:18 - No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the ather, He has declared Him (NKJV)
2nd witness:
Exodus 33:20 - But He said, "You cannot see My face, for no man shall see Me, and live."
...Have been given the full baptism of The Holy Spirit...
...all the words I speak are true.. [/color]
If you have been given the full baptism of The Holy Spirit, as you claim, and if all the words you speak are true, then perhaps your words should be scriptural? All of them? (I do not have time to list every single thing you wrote that is not scriptural, so I just picked two that jumped out at me. There were many other things I could have mentioned.)
Most of us here discuss Ray's teachings, and we fellowship about what the Lord is doing in our lives. We share prayer requests, lift one another up and encourage each other along. Some of us do this more than others, and some of us less.
But, the forum has a "no teaching" rule, meaning we're not allowed to teach others (not that it doesn't happen naturally). God has also called us to obedience, and so we refrain from teaching one another what we think. Sure, there are some here who bend this rule from time to time, even some who are in charge over this group. But overall, this is a solid rule. If what Ray teaches is proven truth, then why present opposite teachings? And much of what you wrote goes against the things Ray has written.
So instead of all of this, why not tell us more about yourself? Let us know a bit about you! Get to know us and let us get to know you! You'll find much wisdom and love here, and maybe we can "learn" from you and you can also "learn" from us. :)
tinknocker:
Please enlighten me on how we are sons now when we have not yet been born of the Spirit.
Thank-you.
Mark
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Hi Mark
We're not perfected yet nor will we be in the flesh but we are definitely sons of God;
Rotherham
Rom 8:14-15 For, as many as by God’s Spirit are being led, the same, are God’s sons,— For ye have not received a spirit of servitude, leading back into fear, but ye have received a spirit of sonship, whereby we are exclaiming—Abba! Oh Father!
Gal 3:25-26 But, the faith having come, no longer, are we, under a tutor;— For ye, all, are, sons of God, through the faith in Christ Jesus;
Gal 4:4-7 But, when the fulness of the time came, God sent forth his Son, who came to be of a woman, who came to be under law,— That, them who were under law, he might redeem, that, the sonship, we might duly receive;— And, because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, exclaiming, Abba! Oh Father! So that, no longer, art thou a servant, but a son; and, if a son, an heir also, through God.
Rom 8:14-15 For, as many as by God’s Spirit are being led, the same, are God’s sons,— For ye have not received a spirit of servitude, leading back into fear, but ye have received a spirit of sonship, whereby we are exclaiming—Abba! Oh Father!
1Jn 3:1-2 Behold, what manner of love, the Father hath bestowed upon us—that, children of God, we should be called,—and such we are! Therefore, the world understandeth us not, because it understood not him. Beloved! now, are we, children of God; and, not yet, hath it been made manifest, what we shall be,—We know that, if it should be made manifest, like unto him, shall we be, because we shall see him, just as he is.
Heb 12:6-7 For, whom the Lord loveth, he doth, discipline, and scourgeth every son whom he doth welcome home. For the sake of discipline, persevere! As towards sons, God, beareth himself, towards you; for who is a son whom a father doth not discipline?
In Love
tinknocker
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