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Did the Father ever have a beginning? Where is the Scriptural proof?
Roy Martin:
I can relate to a curiosity of which I use to have about where God came from. It does seem to our carnal mind that everything would have to have a beginning, but I never could find the answer, so I just marked it off as something we aren't meant to know, or myself anyway. Its not important to me anymore.
I can start thinking about how Adam and Eve were created which to me would be like something in a sci- fi movie. Did he lay there on the ground as an embryo for nine months not alive as he developed into a mature man and woke from the breath of God with complete intellegence speaking and walking, and then there's Eve, a bone lying on the ground growing into also a mature adult. Didn't have to learn to talk or walk.
Well what good does it do for me to ponder on these things? Would it give me spiritual understanding or just an explanation to satisfy my curiosity. Dwelling on it can also get me into the whole creation thing into thinking that if God can create Adam and Eve into maturity then God could have created the earth and all that is in it into maturity, trees. grass, mountains rivers, everything. It can cause me to start questioning the whole bible and leave me in doubt of the truth that I have.
The point here is curiosity's of some things can lead us astray, and maybe even to the point of not believing anything, even in God, but on the other hand, if that happens then there must be a reason for it beyond my puny carnal understanding. I know some truths that God wants me to know and that's good enough for me ,and there is a reason for that also.
Roy
Jennie:
I am not an expert on the Bible and all it says. I just know in my heart that God is in everything , He is , He was and He will always be. He is with me everyday. I don't have anything to write to prove that... I just believe that. With that belief, as ignorant or gullible as I may sound, I just have peace in my heart knowing that I am in His hands. I am glad my life is in His hands because if I tried to do it myself... ya'll know I would just mess it up! There is much to contemplate on these things so I will get to contemplating and send my love to all as we grow in understanding or as my Cherokee grand-parents called it " the way". Jennie from the mountains
Deborah-Leigh:
Roy
Your post brought the following scripture to my mind regarding you as you epitomize 1Ti 6.6.
Jennie the same could apply to you too and your Cherokee grand-parents. There is much wisdom in peace of mind.
1Ti 6:6 .... Godliness with contentment is great gain.
Arcturus
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Roy Martin on February 10, 2010, 06:39:16 AM --- The point here is curiosity's of some things can lead us astray, and maybe even to the point of not believing anything, even in God, but on the other hand, if that happens then there must be a reason for it beyond my puny carnal understanding. I know some truths that God wants me to know and that's good enough for me ,and there is a reason for that also.
Roy
--- End quote ---
To go along with Roy's comments:
Acts 17:16-21 Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry. Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him.
Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection. And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is?
For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean. (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.)
Notice, it was the pagans who spent their time doing 'nothing else' but to tell (teach) or hear some new doctrine. They asked Paul of 'the hope he had in him' but not to learn in order to change their lives, but to 'hear some new thing'.
Do some of us, here at the forum, do this? Are we always running to hear 'some new thing' whether this forum, that forum, this teacher, that teacher? As Deborah posted, are we content with what we DO know to be truth?
Just something to think about coming from daily forum activity.
Marques
Deborah-Leigh:
Marques, these are the preceding Scriptures to the one that I thought of when reading Roy’s post. They fit what you are seeing perfectly.
1Ti 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
1Ti 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
1Ti 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
1Ti 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
It is wise to know the difference. :)
Arc
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