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Felix:
In our church we had a doctrine called "the age of accountability". It goes something like this:
If a child dies before the age of accountability he will go to heaven. If he is not saved and dies after
this age he will go to hell for all eternity.
So, if a child is not raised in a Christian home and dies at lets say 6 years old he is in heaven. But, if
he lives to let's say 7 years old then he will go to hell. Hopefully he will die at 6.
Ridiculous. Absurd. And I used to believe this stuff.
And people call us here on the forum a cult.
God Bless
Felix
Silvia Martin:
Hi Felix,
I was born in a catholic hospital in Germany. The nuns whisked me away for my baptism the next day. My mom wasn't even able to attend. I guess they thought I was accountable at that point... sick isn't it???
God bless,
Silvia
Kat:
Hi Felix,
The church teaches the heretical 'age of accountability,' that if you don't 'accept Jesus' before some young age (I suppose when a child is considered to still be innocent), then they automatically go to heaven. But only those who have been chosen, judged and made right in this lifetime will enter the kingdom of heaven.
1Peter 4:17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God;
"ALL" of us are living in sin, we all live to please ourselves, that is until Jesus' Spirit comes in and shows us something better.
Rom 3:23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
A toddler even at the age of 1 or 2 is very selfish and only concerned for themselves, everything is mine, mine, mine. And you don't have to teach a child to misbehave. This is the sinful nature we are all born with. All (young and old alike) will be judged based on their works. But obviously the younger ones have had less time to develop a lot of sins, so they receive "few stripes" or actually more like necessary correction.
Luke 12:47 And that servant who knew his master's will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
v. 48 But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few.
Here is an excerpt from the article 'Hades and the Second Death' that explains a bit about what will happen to children in the judgment.
http://bible-truths.com/lake16-D5.htm -----
THE SECOND DEATH
It's time for another one of those enigmatic Scriptures that sound very simple, but are difficult to harmonize with all Scriptures compare "spiritual with spiritual" and believe Jesus when He tells us that His "words ARE spirit" (John 6:63). Here is that enigmatic statement:
"And as it is appointed unto men [Gk: 'anthropose'--human, mankind] once to die, but after this the judgment"
This Scripture is all-encompassing, universal, and applies to every human who has ever lived. All humanity must die once, and after that death, they must be judged. There are no exceptions, not even for mentally challenged, teens, youngsters and even infants. (Do sound-minded Christians really believe that when babies die they go to heaven and therefore, there will be millions of eternal babies [in diapers?] living in heaven for all eternity AS BABIES?) God has a way to deal with babies and infants in the Day of Judgment that will be quite equitable -- they will grow up to be adults.
The Chosen Elect are judged now in this Church age (I Cor. 11:31), while the unrepentant, unbelieving, mentally challenged, infants, and all other such categories, are judged in the resurrection to Judgment (I Cor. 11:32)--"In that day," as the Scriptures mention so many times. The reason I don't put infants and such in the category of the wicked every time I mention the wicked and judgment, is because there are few places that mention babies in a Judgment setting, but there are some, but they are not judged as are the wicked. They will be judged for their carnality when it shows itself, as they mature.
"Because he hath appointed a day [called that day and the Day of the Lord in many prophesies], in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that Man Whom He hath ordained; whereof He hath given assurance unto all men, in that He hath raised Him from the dead" (Acts 17:31).
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
Lupac:
I can't stand church (in)doctrine(ation). As for being baptized, I was when I was a baby. According to the church system I grew up in, baptism was/(is?) a sign of the covenant, and when a baby is baptized, he/she becomes a member of that covenant (cult? heh heh.) Anyway, I don't think they thought it had any significance to whether you would go to hell, if you died as a child, (They determined that as whether your parents were Christians in the church system at the time. (Sick, I know.)) but it was just a sign. In the church I grudgingly (Although, unknown to my parents.) attend, the parents make vows on behalf on the child. Just about raising him/her in the ways of the church, basic stuff. I don't know what I'm going to do once I have kids.
Also, my church has been putting questions from the shorter catechism in the back of the bulletin, for the church members to study in their own time. It's up to #10 now, and this is possibly to most un-scriptural list of questions and answers I've seen. (The Heidelberg Catechism is much worse, and my church also believes it.) I was thinking, what's the most basic problem in the church? The teaching of eternal hell is one of them, but I don't think it's the biggest problem. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the biggest problem in the church is the mistranslation of Genesis 1:26-27. Everyone believes Adam and Eve were created in the image of God, perfect, immortal, etc. Mods, please tell me if this is too close to teaching. I just wanted some input. Thanks.
mmijares:
Hi Felix,
Absurd it is, really.
Who in his right mind will throw a kid to hell from stealing a candy just because he wanted to give it to his little sister?! Well, not I for sure but I definitely disclipined my kid when he did that. The good motive was there but the means was off.
Truly, in time of God's judgement, everyone will learn righteousness.
-Mijares
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