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mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Ricky on February 19, 2010, 09:17:31 PM ---Hi, I am a bit confused on something, maybe the mods. can help out with this. I am very happy for anyone that believers they have had a healing from God. Onelovedread was in a chaple when this event happened. My question is how does this event fit with Rev.18. 4 and it sounds like the Lord does dwell in some churches hmmm, maybe I should start checking out a few.
Ricky
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Ricky,
Being in a church or chapel has nothing to do with healing. Christ healed the multitudes in and out of the synagogue, all throughout the towns [Matt 4:23, 9:35].
Yes Christ 'walks in the midst' of the church [Rev 2:1], but He nonetheless tells 'His people' to come out of Babylon [Rev 18:4].
Excerpt from Lake of Fire Part 7 (http://bible-truths.com/lake7.html):
These evil and unscriptural doctrines are idols in the hearts of millions! And until they repent and get rid of these "idols of the heart" (Ezek. 14:4), they cannot be Christ’s disciples or apostles. They may say that they are "apostles," but they are not. The very church of God where Jesus Christ "walks" in their midst and "holds the seven angels of the seven churches in His hand," nonetheless, has in its midst, "…them which say they are apostles, and ARE NOT … but LIARS." They say that they are circumcised in heart Jews, but they are NOT,
"I know the BLASPHEMY of them which say they are [circumcised in heart] Jews, and are NOT, but are the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN." (Rev. 2:1, 2, 9).
Hope this helps,
Marques
Kat:
Hi Ricky,
Here is another excerpt to go along with what Marques posted.
http://bible-truths.com/lake10.html -----------------------
A TRUTH NO LONGER TOLD IN SUNDAY SCHOOL OR CHURCH
John tells us that Satan has a "synagogue." Synagogue means "a gathering together, an assembly, a congregation." This should not sound strange to our ears, seeing that we have already learned from Paul’s writings:
"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed as into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the minister of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their work."
And so Satan has "false apostles," and "ministers of righteousness." Where then would we expect these false apostles and ministers of righteousness that belong to Satan, to reside? Why in "The synagogue of Satan," of course! And what do Satan’s ministers do that enables them to "deceive the whole world?" Paul again tells us:
"Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders."
And just where might we find such a "synagogue of Satan, with false apostles, and false ministers of righteousness, witnessing to the world with power, and signs and lying wonders?"
Certainly not in some macabre-looking, haunted-house structure with a giant marquee out front reading: "COME AND WORSHIP WITH SATAN AND HIS DEMONS"!
WHERE IS THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN?
The synagogue of Satan is located in the churches—in The Church!
"…you have tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and have found them liars" (Rev. 2:2).
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
Ricky:
Hi everyone, I love this place. :) and its a good thing I don't talk to much. Christ does not dwell in temples made by hands but He walks in the midst of them getting all the credit for healing that Satan preforms. Would that be good or evil Christ would be doing? either way it does not fit right. I see it that any healing that Satan does in church and Christ gets the credit for will through Rev. 18.4 right out the window with these people and the church they are in. No wonder we cant caught a UFO, aliens don't want nothing to do with us, we would confuse then to death with this adventure we have going on in life.
Ricky
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Ricky on February 19, 2010, 11:30:21 PM ---Hi everyone, I love this place. :) and its a good thing I don't talk to much. Christ does not dwell in temples made by hands but He walks in the midst of them getting all the credit for healing that Satan preforms. Would that be good or evil Christ would be doing?
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Ricky,
What scripture states Satan 'performs healing'?
Luke 13:15-17 The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his a@@ from the stall, and lead him away to watering? And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day? And when he had said these things, all his adversaries were ashamed: and all the people rejoiced for all the glorious things that were done by Him [Jesus, as it was Jesus who healed this woman from under the 'bounds' of Satan].
Isa 54:16 ...I [God] have created the waster [Satan] to destroy.
John 10:9-10 I [Jesus] am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. The thief [Satan] does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy [not to 'perform healings']. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.
No, it would not be 'evil' for Christ to heal people, no matter where they are...that is the same line of thinking the Pharisees thought of Christ when He healed on the Sabbath. It is NEVER evil to bless or to do good to someone.
Phil 1:18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense [personal gain, insincere motives] or in truth, Christ is proclaimed; and in this I rejoice. Yes, and I will rejoice [ASV].
Hope this helps,
Marques
Deborah-Leigh:
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Ricky, don’t be worried too much about “aliens” rather be looking out for the “Beast” :D
Gen 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she ( not some alien) was the mother of all living.
Also, bear in mind that there are many kinds of works. In Revelations 2 and 3, Jesus affirms that He knows our works.
Ephesus I know your works….But I have against you
Smyrna I know your works,
Pergamos, I know your works….But I have a few things against you
Thyatira, I know your works…..But I have a few things against you,
Sardis,I know your works, that you have a name that you live, and are dead.
Philadelphia and Laodicea, I know your works….
Our works are not judged. We, our spiritual condition is what will be judged according to our works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead in it. And death and hell delivered up the dead in them. And each one of them was judged according to their works.
Arc
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